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Not that many people use email much anymore, but as you often need an email address to sign up for other shit... anyway, I need a better option than gmail, I'm sure you can appreciate why. Email is so old school at this point that most of the time I don't even think about it anymore.

Anyway, I need some email options that aren't gmail or otherwise attached to a billionaire. I'm not really interested in non-email methods of communication, I'm specifically asking about email.

Thanks in advance.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Most if not all non-paid options will have privacy concerns similar to gmail, so you’ll have to pay. I pay for Proton, and though I’m not thrilled about some of the political bullshit their CEO has been up to recently, I think I’ll stay with them for now since they’re still good for privacy, and their other services are solid. They’re also very upfront about what they charge and why, and I think they still plan to transition to a non-profit.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago

There's also Tuta if you're looking for an alternative.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not that many people use email much anymore

Where do you live, because I want to go there immediately.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (7 children)

IDK, what else do they use? Email has to be the least bad option. At least with email you can choose your provider (or be your own).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Any of the dozens of federated chat services.

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[–] Imgonnatrythis 27 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Who's not using email? I'm green with envy, but I think it's a ludicrous premise to think not many people are using email.

[–] jubilationtcornpone 7 points 1 month ago

I also wondered what kind of rock OP lives under. I use email every day, multiple times per day. I probably send more emails than texts.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

i don't use email much at all, only signups at a few places.

at work, communications with my coworker or clients is by phone or in person, not email or very rarely sms. email is mainly the required communications with the state (business registrations, taxes and shit) and invoices and receipts for things we use or buy online. plus lots of spam. lots and lots of spam. oh, and scams. lots of scammers and phishers too.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

i currently use tuta. it has a free tier, offers encryption, is open source, gdpr-compliant, and is 100% powered by green energy.

i have used mailbox in the past, which is paid (cheapest tier is ~€12/yr). i can recommend it as well.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I use Tuta mail. It is entirely open source. There are both paid and free tiers. I started on a paid tier, then downgraded to free. I like the option of a usable free tier when money is tight. I use addy.io for aliases.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

How do you use email aliases or what do you find them useful for? I've played around with generating unique aliases for different websites I use, but I'm not sure I did anything useful with that setup. Normally, if I get spam I usually just hit the unsubscribe link and that's been sufficient. Currently, I just have 2 emails: one I use for businesses and such and one for random websites that I don't care too much about. Is having more aliases better?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

If an alias receives spam, I can deactivate it. Future mail addressed to that alias will not forward to my email inbox. In essence, stop the flow of water instead of repeatedly mopping around the leak. Also, I am wary of malicious unsubscribe links.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I use proton and for registering on different sites I usually use addy.io. Also, I recently found a new mail service that looks nice and might give it a try soon, disroot.org

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

ProtonPass will also generate aliases and forward the mail to your email account. But, as someone else mentioned, the CEO's politics seem sus.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

I'm currently moving (for the last year) from Gmail to mailbox.org.

They have a free level, but I wanted aliases, so I pay $30/year. Worth every penny.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I moved from proton to mailbox a few months ago and so far I'm really happy with it too

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Same here. Moved from Outlook to Mailbox a year ago and I'm happy with it, using mostly custom domains with catch all. I havo also recently enabled encryption which wasn't hard to integrate into my mail clients at all. They dont have a free plan, but the cheapest plan is 1€/month (which doesn't allow custom domains).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I've been there for several years as well. Works great, and I get pretty much no spam.

At one point they offered "envelope with money sent via postal service" as an anonymous payment option, IDK if they still do that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Been with MailBox.org for ages and it's been absolutely fantastic. Proton had very limited offerings at the time, but even now I haven't felt the need to move.

I think the most basic email offering is €1/month.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Tutanota or disroot.

[–] baggachipz 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

PurelyMail is a great indie mail service. I love them.

[–] LemoineFairclough 8 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

While I'm using Proton rn, I'm planning to migrate to Posteo with Addy.io for aliases. However they all cost money. If you mean free email that's not tie to a billionaire, I can't think one off my head. You can achieve "free" by hosting your own email server as it sounds you're intended for receiving only, but the electricity still cost some, plus you are doning free labor to make sure it is happy.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

if you wanna forget privacy and subscribe to a proprietary startup instead, use hey mail because it just sorts well. otherwise just use proton like everyone else said

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Riseup.net Private, free, encrypted

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

proton.

Proton unlimited comes with unlimited everything on proton pass, including disposable email addresses

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

I'm currently using Migadu. It's $20/year for their cheapest plan. They give you a lot of control over the email service, so it might not be the best if you're a noob. In fact, they require you bring a domain name. But, they let you create unlimited users, aliases, have fancy routing, etc.

https://purelymail.com/ looks interesting too. And is cheaper at $10/year.

If you do decide to get a custom domain, just some tips:

  • get something that ends in .net or even better .com because shitty companies with shitty IT departments will block other TLDs (I've had this happen with FedEx and my local garbage company). There is no spam folder for them, the email just explodes.
  • probably don't pick a domain with one of your names it in for better anonymity, unless I guess you have a popular last name? [email protected] looks cool, but consider if you want random sites like lemmy to have that data.
  • don't pick a homophone or weird word because at some point you'll have to speak your email to another human and it's really awkward to tell your bank that your email is [email protected] or [email protected] or was it [email protected]?

Also, the web interfaces of some of these other email services might not be as good as Gmail's UI. It helps to use an email client instead. Thunderbird is fine or you could use something simpler like claws-mail or even something like mutt.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I use proton for a while now, its been great and well supported. The proton pass lets you use unique emails to register too. Its paid, for that anyway. I've been in love, I still don't keep my passwords on it opposed to a USB drive, but some i've started to just out of simplicity and lack of need of serious security for those.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

mailbox.org

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

While we're at it, anyone got a good site for temporary addresses that are basically used exactly once? And ideally don't immediately get flagged as spam addresses.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

To DIY you can buy your own domain and attach it to any paid email provider, then you get an infinite amount of temporary addresses. e.g. if you own @ rumschlumpel.blahblahblah.org then you can create abc@ , xyz@ , abc123@ , etc. as much as you like.

Just about all the email provider suggestions in this thread have a paid tier that you can configure your own domain with.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Mailbox.org already provides 3 different aliases even at the lowest tier, but I've already filled those with non-temporary aliases and I don't really want to pay three times as much just for throwaway-aliases ...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

https://www.byom.de/trashmails/

Decent functionality, and it didn't get flagged most of the time I used it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Rise up has changed their invite policy to one every 24 hours. I am sending out invites in order of request, but have had (to date) 21 DM’s. I have to draw a line and will send one per day until I am cut off.

Thanks

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Protonmail. I have over 25 different online accounts/identities (each one for a different topic gaming, movies, music, coding etc.), all Protonmail based.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Absolutely. But one thing I didn't like was it locked me from using Proton services (even free plan) once my premium plan ran out until I paid $6 cancelation fee BS.

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