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[–] [email protected] 25 points 22 hours ago

Strong contrast to certain shitty countries that tie more debt to education instead

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Have they fixed their cheating problem?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago

Pretty sure that's more like a human problem

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

if everyone cheats it's not a problem

[–] [email protected] -1 points 20 hours ago

Cheating is a sign on ambition and resourcefulness. Sometimes it takes more effort to cheat than studying.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (4 children)

They really don't need more graduates from the university, so many of them struggle to find any job and end up as delivery drivers https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8nlpy2n1lo

[–] Enkers 41 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

On the other hand, I think the rise of fascism in the US is directly connected to its growing anti-intellectualism and cuts to education. Overall it's a good thing to have an overeducated population.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Up to a certain point or excluding certain topics I would argue:

If more and more understand the short comings of any current system due to education I would assume there will a growing demand for change to get rid of the shortcomings. And thinking back of how the Hong Kong Situation was handled it looks more like a top-down "My way or no way!" ruling style I don't see coping well with well educated citizens wanting change.

Might be wrong though. Just a thought before my morning coffee.

[–] Enkers 5 points 19 hours ago

I mean, "Let's not educate people so they're ignorant to how they're being exploited, and we don't want to have to beat them down" is certainly a take. I guess maybe you can see Cypher as the people's hero if you squint hard enough.

But in my opinion, the more people who understand the shortcomings of a system, the more pressure there will be to fix it, and that's how progress happens. It's slow and sometimes bloody, but the alternative is even worse.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago

Education isn't just about job prospects. You need a well educated populace in order to inoculate them from mis- and disinformation. It also further protects democracy, but that isn't on China's to-do list, I'm guessing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Shitibs really will find a way to portray anything China does as negative huh

[–] [email protected] -5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck off shitcon, nobody is talking to you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

Cope harder lib. How does it feel crying about other countries' better education just because you can't get any?

Also what does "shitcon" mean? Misspelled something?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Chinese state seems to frequently chase vacuous milestones to boast to the world about while the actual problems China and its people face go unaddressed. Sure that describes a lot of states, but China in particular stands out to me in how dogged they are to gain face.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

The saving/gaining face is deeply rooted in East Asian societies because they are collectivist societies and has strong roots in Confucianism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Educated people are hard to control. They don’t want that unless the CCP are gonna hand the state back to the people—they wont.

See: American education system

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Could be an euphism, strong education as in strong control over education

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

Or just a heavy focus on technical skills and a carefully controlled narrative on any sort of social studies. Smart people can also fall for propaganda if they are told it’s the truth since childhood

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

Oh, so China. Well I guess that’s pretty on brand.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Good point, I've heard of STEM institutions of having student populations falling victim of that

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

What sort of topics?