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I only tip at full service restaurants, barber shops, and for specialized full services that I want prompt responses (bars, hotels, rideshares).
Convenience stores, fast food, self service kiosks, medical services, oil changes, I'm not tipping you for doing a low skilled task or something insurance covers.
Do barbers also depend on tips? That’s need to me.
I'm an American who has lived abroad for over a decade now. I'm amazed at how stuff has changed. When you don't go back all that often it really hits you
If tipping culture dies because of this and workers are actually honestly compensated that would be a good thing.
I tried to do grocery shopping at instacart recently.
The prices looked good, I spent some time making a bigger basket(around 100$) and went to checkout. Then I found out that they charge service fee about 13$, delivery fee 4.50$, heavy fee and at the very end they also added tax. My 100$ shopping was now over 120$ but then they asked me to tip the driver and options were 10% or 20%. I tried to enter custom amount but was discouraged with a scary prompt saying that my driver will see the tip and that tips under 15% are highly discouraged as my order might be deprioritised... so all those service fees, delivery fees and heavy fees are just used to run the website?! But actually paying your own employees? Nooo... that's up to you, kind stranger on the internet! Please, be generous (we are tired to look for another poor bastard every two weeks or so)!
I refuse to use most of those services for this exact reason.
I still can't understand why americans still tolerate tip culture.
We don't have mandatory tips in Europe and still have people working at McDonald's or similar restaurants : In France, it's even one of the biggest employer of the country.
Because in some places it's the only way for the staff to make livable wages. If our store didn't allow tips I'd be missing 10 - 20% of the pay I get, and with the situation I'm in, everything helps.
And while I would love for tips to go away, and for our minimum wage to reflect the reality of our economy, that doesn't seem to be happening nearly fast enough, or in some places, at all.
I see accepting that is part of 'tolerating tipping culture'. Indeed, the system as it is now would not realistically allow for tipping to be obliterated. But just saying "it doesn't work, for this and that reason..." and then continuing the status quo, will not change anything.
You've seen what happens in France when the workers are unhappy. What America needs, first and foremost, is powerfull unions, make the minimal wage reflect a decent living wage at least, make the waiters wage an acceptable wage, and then abolish tipping. Accepting the status quo is tolerating it.
Some more context for this comment:
I'm in a store that would quite literally shut down if the owner was forced to raise the wages. That cock would rather cut the losses instead of provide something decent for his staff. I have a very schedule at the moment, my car broke down, I live in butt fuck nowhere, and I work as much as I can before I have to rest and focus on things at home, the job isn't too hard but the one miscommunication here is that I'm "accepting" tipping being the norm.
Fuck no, I hate it just like everybody else, but holy shit passing over the fact that these tips are some peoples life lines is a joke.
Also while unionizing is great and fantastic, it is so hard to pull off in the US, especially if you work at a chain restaurant.
Recently Starbucks workers tried unionizing a few stores in some rather populous areas, Starbucks reaction? Fire all the workers and shut the store down. McDonalds has had it's fair share of union busting actions too, and so do many of these other chain restaurants.
You can say that unions are the solution, and yes they are, in the long term, but to seriously go for making one requires strikes and protests that a lot of the lower earning public cannot afford to do. Maybe in the next 3 - 5 years? But definitely not soon.
I do see society changing though, A lot of people are just opting out of traditional employment entirely, either doing side hustles or my states favorite drug trading business. The businesses are hurting, just not enough to care.
I'm not really a tipper but i don't have a problem with them asking. my problem is when they don't list no tip as an option..
"We just shifted how the money came in," Neitzel said.
We know you greedy trashbags. Tipping isn't necessary and a detriment to the experience.
amen.
Does anyone have a concern about what happens when NOT leaving a tip at these places? I don't enjoy tipping before I have received service (fast food) but am unsure of the ramifications of not doing so 😬
Wait you have to tip before getting anything? US tipping culture is so fucked holy shit.
edit: also the thought of tipping for fast food is fucking ridiculous lmfao. You threw it into the deep fryer asshole I'm not tipping you for that
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It’s absolute BS that the “tipped” minimum wage is lower than for everyone else. Tipping is supposed to reward you for excellent service, not subsidize the fucking company
yeah, whoever lobbied for that and got that bill passed was evil.
republican but same thing