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[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 hours ago

Sues. Lawyers do discovery. Tencent refuses. Court fines Tencent in contempt, rules in favor of the government. Tencent tries to bribe Trump with something.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

I agree with the US DoD. The large Chinese corporations are owned by CCP members and former PLA officers. Contain them until the PRC implodes.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Not to mention I'm pretty sure all of their Chinese office buildings are literally in Military owned and operated land.

It would be like Google HQ being in the middle of a US military base.

EDIT: Although I do admit adjacent the Googleplex building there is a Department of Defense building like 10 minutes drive, near the airfield, but it's probably there because NASA operates on the airfield.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

So all veteran owned businesses in the US are extensions of the US military?

[–] vaultdweller013 0 points 4 hours ago

Like thats not a bad idea from an international perspective, there are plenty of folks who maintain connections and may or may not be at minimum an annoyance. Though I also feel like American culture is mercantile and independent enough that such risks are generally minimized, except from so called Christian companies those sons of bitches always have a secondary goal beyond profits.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Given the way things are going, the US will implode long before China does.

[–] vaultdweller013 4 points 4 hours ago

If the US goes China goes, the trade links are comparable to the late bronze age which ended when the trade links collapsed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

Lol sue the us?

Money vs money, go for it

[–] [email protected] 65 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Every fucking Chinese company is required to be an arm of their government and provide them with any information they request. It's not even a question, they are an arm of the Chinese government. They can get fucked

[–] [email protected] 51 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

Same goes for US companies.

Have we learned nothing from Snowden?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (3 children)

Yeah it is similar, but not the same (at least not yet).

China is a one-party state, and the government has control over private enterprise. If you are a Chinese company, the PRC ultimately has control of it, and that means the Chinese military has access to anything you have access to, if they want it.

This is on a different level than anything Snowden released.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

This is on a different level than anything Snowden released.

Snowden released the fact that the major internet companies in the US literally have full time CIA staff and locked rooms with servers

Why is this on a different level? Is it because they're ASIANS?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

That Snowden releasing the facts and it being brought up in courts, state congress, and federal congress as well as national news all revolved around it being illegal in the USA.

In the PRC it's only illegal to talk about it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

That Snowden releasing the facts and it being brought up in courts, state congress, and federal congress as well as national news all revolved around it being illegal in the USA.

Did it stop?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The specific program Snowden revealed supposedly ended in 2015, it collected information such as who was calling who and for how long. The 9th Circuit actually ruled it clearly illegal in 2020 and Snowden made a Tweet about it in a relatively good mood.

[–] explodicle 1 points 3 hours ago

This is the best news I've heard all day! Thanks.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago

The long and short of it is even leftie Americans have internalised American exceptionalism, even if they aren't cognisant of it. And the right are, well... Racist and don't want to admit it.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 5 hours ago

There are several hundred political parties in China currently in office.

[–] fibojoly 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

China is a one-party state

I wish you could realise how hilarious it is to read someone comparing the US and China on their number of political parties...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Oh? So you are saying that there are no functional difference between a federation of 50 states, each with individual (somewhat independent) local and state governments, and the authoritarian CCP?

When I say "China is a one-party state," I'm not referring to political parties as we would understand them in the US (Democrat/Republican). I am referring to the actual structure of the government.

You might want to maybe educate yourself on what a "one-party state" means in this context before trying to make snarky comments.

[–] fibojoly 3 points 3 hours ago

You're right, I'm sorry, I really should educate myself about the US beyond the 40+ years of propaganda I've had to endure and the absolutely constant, never ending stream of shit across all media I'm the grateful recipient of, thanks to the Internet™. But honestly, I'm kinda scared I'd actually die if I came to visit.

Meanwhile, my experience with China over the last ten years or so has left me regularly wondering, in the grand scheme of things, what the fucking difference is. You both are absolutely insane, from where I live.

But yes, I was totally cherry picking your message. I don't disagree with you, to be clear. I'm just amused about your choice of epithet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

What's so hilarious about it?

[–] fibojoly 0 points 3 hours ago

I'm being slightly disingenuous by focusing on one expression in the entire message, granted.
But honestly, using "one party state" as an epiteth, like that's what you want to focus on that's badwrong about China? that's amusing to me, reading this from Europe. YMMV.

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