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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh boy! I wonder which form of environmental collapse will cause my death!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Eh, if it's not environmental disaster due to climate change, I have a hunch it might be microplastics or forever chemicals. That's what I expect will do me in before old age does.

And to think that I was seriously considering moving up north to the Great Lakes to get away from Climate Change and to move to a place that actually has fresh water. Joke's on me, that fresh water has microplastics to kill me. Total Catch-22.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The two biggest sources of microplastics are car tires and clothing. If you care about reducing microplastics, you should try to not buy plastic clothing (polyester, nylon, etc.) and instead buy biodegrable fibers like cotton or wool. I don't know what to do about the tire thing except drive maybe drive less?

[–] pepperonisalami 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not a personal solution but trains don't have tires, and busses probably consume less tires per person per km.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

trains don’t have tires

Oh?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And the noise, oh my fucking god, the noise!! My phone can measure accurately to 90dB and this thing hits 90 regularly.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If clothes are a very significant contributor, I'd like to see mandatory lint filters in new washing machines.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The snag is that the 'micro' in 'microplastics' means they're too small to reasonably or reliably capture without great expense - even at the industrial scales of sewage treatment plants.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

See I thought about this and this is what I figured at first, but then it occurred to me that lint isn't actually microscopic. Some of it probably is, but I bet that the normal, trappable size lint escapes into the lakes via the sewage system and then degrades into microscopic plastics. Could be wrong but if this is true then filtering at the washer, using a mesh similar to the one for the dryer could be a significant help. If the numbers work of course.

[–] Sethayy 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Though where do you put the lint once filtered out? (Assuming most is filterable)

[–] Ironfist 2 points 1 year ago

In your drinking water to make the process more efficient of course.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think there is already a product that that will filter plastics out of the water out line on washing machine actually

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Quite possibly. I think I recall something like that, but to be effective this has to be mandated to be included inside the washers themselves, similar to the lint filters in dryers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Agreed. Would be nice to see that as a standard. But I'm sure they will fight tooth and nail to save the 10 dollars per unit it would cost

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


About 90% of water samples taken over the last 10 years from the Great Lakes contain microplastic levels that are unsafe for wildlife, a new peer-reviewed paper from the University of Toronto finds.

The Great Lakes provide drinking water to over 40 million people in the US and Canada, hold about 90% of the US’s freshwater, and are home to 3,500 species of plants and animals.

The authors reviewed data from peer-reviewed studies from the last 10 years, which showed the highest levels are found in tributaries leading to the lakes, or around major cities like Chicago and Toronto.

Though myriad microplastic sources exist, wastewater treatment plants seem to be a major Great Lakes basin contributor, as they are elsewhere, Hataley said.

She noted concerning levels of microplastics have been found in sport fish consumed by humans and beer brewed with Great Lakes water.

Though Canadian and US governments have known about microplastic levels for at least 10 years, it can take time for regulators to act, and the new paper highlights the situation’s urgency, Hataley said.


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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

No big deal, just some plastic in the fish and beer.

[–] independantiste 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Everytime I see microplastics mentionned it reminds me of that post that said that every generation had very toxic products that people just used and didn't know they were terrible, like asbestos and leaded fuel. Well for our generation it will be plastics that need to be eradicated! Then well find out another thing that is extremely toxic

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There are also PFAS/forever chemicals

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I don't think plastic is going anywhere. Unlike the formers

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The article doesn't specify what the impacts of these micro plastics are. What makes them unsafe?