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[–] [email protected] 212 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Seeing things like this I find it weird there aren't more Mario bros around in the US.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

He was an oddity in America. Most Americans don't have the ability to go from keyboard to action.

They can barely muster enough oxygen to make the thought they need to write down in the first place. America is a bizarre place.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

They seem quite able to shoot up schools and run over pedestrians tho

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago

That’s no more than like 15% of us bro, don’t lump us all in

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[–] [email protected] 129 points 2 weeks ago

I still find it crazy its a “request for leave” which they can deny rather than “im not coming in today, I need to go to the hospital”

[–] [email protected] 123 points 2 weeks ago

We're burning the wrong Amazon

[–] [email protected] 79 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Appropriate, as Amazon is one of the major companies trying to have the NLRB,which gives unions a modicum of pushback against corps, declared "unconstitutional". Id expect a full press on that in the fist year if successful, id expect major portions of the NLRA itself to be targeted.

Lots of blood and sweat and tears of the 19th and 20th century being washed away right now that will have to be shed again to get these rights back.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I'm pretty sure this is D.O.G.E. main goal

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago

The dept of efficiency has two leaders. You can't make that up.

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

According to Huffington Post:

An Amazon spokesperson told HuffPost on Friday that the denial was due to an error in Scott-Windham’s time off request and said she has the company’s “full support.”

What sort of reasonable "error" could possibly deny something like this?

[–] [email protected] 89 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

It’s the “we didn’t expect the news to pick this up and start reporting on it. We don’t want this kind of bad press” error.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 weeks ago

The sort of error that only occurs when it might become bad PR.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The small error that when they decided to violate FMLA laws, they didn't realize anyone was watching.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't know how Amazon works but I imagine it's some sort of form submission and she chose the wrong option.

Don't think that makes it okay, time off requests should be considered by a human who actually interacts with the employee, in my opinion, but I can see it happening. Dealt with that when I worked for Walmart. I definitely got a few days off that I submitted through the automated system online and have no idea if anyone ever approved.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

My entire impression of HR at amazon warehouses is HR is there to onboard new hires and occasionally act as an equivalent to t1 tech support. You go to the amazon worker subreddit and about half the posts talking about a problem have comments like 'yeah just call corporate HR they'll fix it' because onsite HR fucked something up.

edit: Also worth noting, that same subreddit is pointing out that medical leave of absence is always approved by default with 30 days to provide proof so yeah she probably put in for the wrong type of leave.

Most people who have worked at an amazon warehouse will tell you the same story: yes amazon sucks, no not for that reason in the news. Amazon was the 2nd best warehouse I've worked at, but that's more a condemnation of the industry than praise for amazon.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

If only workers could band together and use their collective bargaining powers to improve their treatment.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

But this is how the socialists and commies win!!! Oh... Wait... Yeah

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Even if it's a weird computer or paperwork fluke, it's emblematic of the company, so there's no version of this where they don't go fuck themselves.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

I'd deny a leave of absence as well... But I'd leave her on the payroll.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

What is a request for time off? I am informing you I will not be there. There is no request.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I was just laughing at the absurdity in robocop rouge city where a corporate announcement says “reminder, a gunshot wound is no longer basis for time off unless it requires overnight hospitalization…”

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"The wrong amazon is burning."

  • quoting some comment I read somewhere
[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This is one of those open and shut FMLA violations that even shitty companies can't get away with though and they know it.

The lady will be canned one way or another once they get back to the office because they violated some bullshit policy about how you can't talk to the press or some bullshit. Will probably take a couple months and involve a PIP for "poor performance"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

Very few Amazon warehouse workers qualify for FMLA. They intentionally have a system designed to use up people and spit them out in just under a year so they don't qualify.

There are entire industries of low-skill jobs that intentionally try to keep worker retention low to keep from having to comply with labor laws.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

If you still use Amazon, you’re supporting this kind of capitalism

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Unfortunately it's very difficult not to support Amazon indirectly because they make a lot of their money from AWS, which a large fraction of the internet runs on.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago

Newsweek is pretty shit, but at least it's not a screenshot of a tweet so thank you.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Despite lemmy thinking CEOs are useless, they're usually the most important person in the company because they set the tone. That tone rolls downhill. Show me happy or sad employees, I'll tell you what kind of leadership they have.

Bezos set the grind culture when Amazon was starting, and that's fine for a startup, what has to be done. But he never backed off, and now we get shit like this, 100% on him.

Sometimes you have to grind at a shit job to work your way up, I get it. But there appears to be no level at Amazon where you're not under the gun.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

But why should anyone have to grind at a shit job? If your business can only survive by grinding people down, maybe society would be better off without it. If the only way we can get same day delivery is over the burnt-out, permanently injured ex-employees of a multi-national, is it really worth it? Maybe that start-up never should have made it. Maybe strong labor laws should have forced them to scale back their ambitions or close their doors.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

If they were deemed useless, they wouldn't become a target. The useless phrasing is more that their direction for the purpose of the company is useless overall. Line goes up isn't always a reflection of how well the company is doing for itself and its customers. You are right that CEOs usually set how the company runs, as my work a few years ago transitioned to a new CEO after decades of the first, and it's showing. What's frustrating is when they continue to play off that they are the same company and policy to keep morale up, but it's obvious things are different.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago

You can't make this shit up. Reality is so horrible, especially with mega corporations.

[–] L0rdMathias 17 points 2 weeks ago

Got it. Understood. Any and all Amazon representatives will continue to function after being shot.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

Absolutely heartless

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I wonder how many lawyers are offering her their services? Because that sounds like a slam dunk lawsuit if I've ever seen one.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I wouldn't be surprised if an AI handled the schedule.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

As soon as I read "Alabama", somehow the rest of the news became unsurprising.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Remember remember the 4th of December....

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

She's been fucking shot, the hell kind of work do you think she'll do?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

From the article:

“The Amazon warehouse where she works originally denied her request for a leave of absence, but the company said in a statement Friday that they've since spoken with her and given her time off with pay.

"We wish her a full recovery and look forward to welcoming her back to work once she's able," said Amazon spokesperson Kelly Nantel.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago

Yep, all you need to get reasonable time off is for your specific plight to make national news...

[–] lurch 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Bezos needs her to suffer more

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