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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by [email protected] to c/greentext
 

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I like that in this scenario they still have to install Whatsapp to be able to phone on the phone.

Frankly, my stance to this is to just do what's convenient and deal with the rest. For big, meaningful change you need regulation, not user behavior.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What do you mean? They can phone without, they install it to "communicate with boomeer relatives", as it's written.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It was hyperbole... but only just. Even most of my audio calls happen over Whatsapp these days. Certainly 100% of the texting.

I know this is very region-dependent, so mileage may vary, but I did find it funny that it was acknowledged here despite the deliberately convoluted deep scrubbing depicted on the rest of the post. It's... less funny now that you made me explain it, though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

OK, I've never used WhatsApp so I thought you meant that with these changes the regular call feature would be broken.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Oh, no, not at all. It's just that socially in some territories Whatsapp is incredibly ingrained. Even if you cut off every Meta app people will expect you to be reachable that way by default, so you kinda can't avoid it. I don't know if that was the point of the post, but it's the best bit, at least if you're in that kind of place.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Just install Linux mobile at this point

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If only basic phone features still worked properly with Linux, I would do just that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I toyed with a Pinephone last year. Most of my complains were toward the hardware, although I didn't try every basic functionality either.
It took me a while to setup the OS because I wanted to try a few different distros and screwed up a few times here and there. Arch was the most stable of those I tried. It also comes with a built-in right to brag about using Arch, which is cool. I think that using a more recent and higher grade phone could make it usable in the day to day, as the pinephone is more of a development tool. Otherwise, give it a few more years.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yup, I hoped that last year would've been long enough, but it's still not in a state that I could daily drive it, so I ended up with a Pixel 8 w/ GrapheneOS. I'm definitely watching development, and if I find a good phone/OS match that allows me to daily drive something like PostmarketOS or Arch on a phone, I'll probably switch.

It's a cool project, and I sincerely hope Linux gets to a place where I can daily drive it on my phone. I already use it on my laptop and desktop (openSUSE Tumbleweed, after several years of Arch), and I would love to also use it on my phone. I'll even help port/develop apps for it as well, but it needs to meet my basic needs first (so MMS, all day battery life, good audio, reliable calls/texts). In the meantime, I'm trying to switch to a VOIP service instead, which simultaneously makes my need for all-day battery less important (can answer calls on my computer), complicates basic phone features (not sure how VOIP call device wake-up works on Linux), and eliminates much of the issues w/ carriers (just need a data plan, and most calls will be over wifi).

[–] Stomata 5 points 2 weeks ago

Its my secondary phone

[–] MumboJumbo 3 points 2 weeks ago

@[email protected] Sorry I can't figure out how to reply in thread, made an account just to tell you you can get a nøglebrik/kodeviser for MitId. It's a fully offline TOTP thing that you can use instead of the app. I never even installed the app :)

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