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A Boring Dystopia

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EDIT: The FBI has since corrected themselves and are now treating it as an act of terror.

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[–] [email protected] 112 points 4 days ago (4 children)

The FBI is investigating the NO attack as an act of terrorism. This is how misinformation spreads.

[–] [email protected] 100 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

At the time the N.O. Mayor's office was arguing that it was not a terrorist attack. The FBI is now looking into it as a terror attack. Things change. It happens.

EDIT: Sorry, busy morning and got it turned around. Mayor's office said it wasn't terrorism, FBI said it wasn't but has since changed their tune.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The FBI special agent in charge said on a live broadcast a couple of hours ago that it was not terrorism. Maybe she misspoke. Maybe they realized the PR nightmare of that choice. But it is certainly not misinformation

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The fact that PR might play into whether a specific attack is terrorism or not undermines the whole concept.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Not really. They might have been hesitant to label it as terrorism to prevent a panic. It's not uncommon for law enforcement to withold details of an ongoing investigation for such reasons, or to not tip off co-conspirators that they're on to them.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Other way around, Mayor always said it was terror, FBI originally said it wasn't. Well, one person from the FBI anyway.

The headline in your image "unclearly" states exactly that. FBI declares "not terrorism, -contradicting- Mayors statement".

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago

You're right. My mistake.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

~~Shocker that when big, horrendous events happen that it's all chaos and people not knowing what's happening for hours and hours afterwards.~~ ~~ You know, not everything is a big fucking conspiracy. Sometimes its just different groups operating on different levels of available information and on different opinions on said information in the immediate aftermath of a horrific disaster.. I doubt the New Orleans mayor spends a ton of time working with the FBI, a completely separate organization.~~

~~Nobody knew what the fuck was happening in the first hours after 9/11 either, so much so that they changed laws about information sharing between organizations due to the lack of clear communications at the time, which only ever sort of helped.~~

~~See also: A BBC journalist saying WTC 7 had collapsed while WTC 7 was standing behind her in the background. The BBC was working off an incorret Reuters report when they made the report and I don't expect a foreign news correspondent to be super familiar with which building WTC 7 actually was. Mistakes and miscommunications happen.~~

I take it all back, it's because the guy is fucking Muslim. I guess the War on Terror never ended.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

I think he was also flying an isis flag.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

Hard to get anything right when you’re rushing to push your viewpoint, huh?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Source: https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/new-orleans-mass-casualty-bourbon-street-01-01-24-hnk/index.html

The FBI is investigating the deadly New Orleans incident at an “act of terrorism,” the bureau said in a statement.

“This morning, an individual drove a car into a crowd of people on Bourbon Street in New Orleans, killing a number of people and injuring dozens of others,” the FBI said in a statement. “The subject then engaged with local law enforcement and is now deceased. The FBI is the lead investigative agency, and we are working with our partners to investigate this as an act of terrorism.”

I guess all the "journalists" being on Bluesky isn't enough for it to not be filled to the brim with bullshit, too.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

The subject then engaged with local law enforcement and is now deceased

It makes it sound like the cops wouldn't have done anything if the guy hadn't brought the fight to them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Also, unless there has been a recent development, last I heard on the two shot cops was they were in stable condition, not dead.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

The cops being idiots doesn't make this misinformation xD

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 days ago

Our ownership class and the institutions that obey them in favor of good governance are due full recognition. Should all acquaintance be forgot, the CIA extrajudicial detention and ~~enhanced interrogation~~ torture program was completely developed not because that's a good way to get intelligence (it's not) but because some rich people were sore about 9/11 and wanted to see Arab Muslims suffer, whether they were related to the event or not. (Compare and contrast price-tag killings in Palestine.)

The escalation of charges against Luigi Mangione to terrorism are not due to any evidence, and in fact prosecutors and attorneys general have already weighed in that Murder One will be difficult to prove (NYC has a tightly constrained definition of M1. Assuming they have sound evidence linking Mangione to the crime -- they may not -- Murder Two is the the most likely conviction.)

It was noted on the day of the attack that certain hate crime homicides in NYC were ignored in news media. A fellow was shanked for not being sufficiently white by a white supremacist, and that incident is not being considered grounds for terrorism, even though the hate-crime aspects of the incident are already evident. What's the difference? Mangione attacked someone of the ownership class, and they have influence enough to corrupt our justice system while we watch.

All I wanna say is that they don't really care about us

[–] [email protected] 45 points 4 days ago

They really are arguing that murking a CEO has more potential to change things than just about anything else.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah because the ruling class only feels terrorized by one of them.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

Dead school children is just an unfortunate reality of our glorious regime! A small price owner class is willing to pay.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago

Can we have a place for not boring dystopia now? This is getting a bit riveting

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

What is the purpose of the word "terrorist" orher than to legitimize violence done by militaries of recognized governments?? When both are essentially the same?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Does it need another purpose?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's not classed as terrorism unless there was a CEO in the crowd /s

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Otherwise it's just sparkling freedom of speech with guns

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Please get it out of your mind that there is anything here about justice… it’s not about justice, it’s about power. It always has been, the continued fake shock of this only continues to be unproductive whining. There is no one that is confused about this, there are those who see it for what it is and those who are willingly ignorant.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

I don't know if it's wholly unproductive. Memes like this can stoke stochastic violence, but hopefully pointed at people who deserve violence. If someone sees this and decides "Fuck it, I'm going to murder an health insurance executive" then that's probably a net positive.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

what's the pool up to on whether the actual terrorist in this case is a nazi/trumpling

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yeah, these kinds of attacks are almost always fascists. Cars are fascist. Car attacks are dumb/cowardly enough only for fash...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Apparently this doesn't refer to the New Orleans truck attack, since the FBI is investigating that one as an act of terrorism. Must be a different one.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

They are now treating it as an act of terror but the original statement was that it was not an act of terrorism. This changed after the screenshot was taken.

EDIT: Below is a screenshot of reports at the time, before the FBI changed their tune.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 days ago

FBI suspects terrorism??? They're both terrorism. It's not difficult to understand