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Forgive the vent, but it used to be that the instances were all simply opinionated in different ways. You could talk to anyone from any instance without anyone getting upset so as long as you were respectful. Being in an instance used to be enviable enough to jest about.

Early on, it went from that to "my opinion should not be pushed back against". For a while, you could not go into ML territory, for example, and challenge their status quo. Recently it has reached another new level, where people will obliterate you simply for being neutral, and this was after they began to break their own rules. Individual cities in my home country are beginning to consider banning the fediverse, and that's only because the country itself stopped short of doing it. I thought the fediverse was supposed to make things easier to enjoy. How can we trust we can look up to it in this social environment?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Individual cities in my home country are beginning to consider banning the fediverse

lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

I'm into a lot of things 😏

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

It would be fun to see the consequences of defederating the main developer's instance from most other instances. They'd probably begin seriously changing the codebase and licensing.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago

Where is your home country, that they're considering a ban like this?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I thought the fediverse was supposed to make things easier to enjoy

Rule of everything #1: everything good turns to shit.

I like my instance (SDF): they don't block any other instance. They let individual users do it for themselves.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They dont block anything? Like they dont block pedo shit? I dont wanna have to keep track of whos got pedo shit just to block them i want my instance to do that for me (hence why i dont self host). Other than that i like the idea.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

As far as I can tell, they federate with everybody. No Blocked tab in their instance page, and the few instances I checked out that are blocked by other instances were linked by SDF.

That's kind of why I went with SDF when I opened my Lemmy account: I don't want anybody to tell what I can and cannot read. If I find an instance I can't stand, it's easy enough to block the instance in the Settings nowadays:

I haven't seen any pedo stuff on Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

They don't even seem to ban abusive users, SDF is really hands off when it comes to the whole instance moderation thing. Which is actually kind of terrifying, means abusive communities stand forever there.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'd say do it. Seems mostly some lemmy.ml drama to me. I quit all the .ml communities a few months ago, and instead subscribed to the same ones on all the other instances. I'm quite happy with the result.

(I figured, you can't keep complaining all the time. At some point you need to do something. Like leave and switch to a nicer instance.)

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

.ml admins be like:

  • talking neutrally about which .ml admin took a moderative action in a .ml community, referring to them by the pseudonym used within .ml - "you is doxxing lol"
  • connecting the online identities of the same person across multiple sites, in a way that is clearly violating their privacy, to stir up drama within a discussion - "lets do this lmao"

Yeah. Rules for thee, not for me; users = "cattle to be herded".

inb4 "but those were different people!" - it doesn't matter when you're part of a team dammit. Users have the right to not be gaslighted on what they're allowed or not to do within a community, even if you own that community.

It's this sort of shit that made me migrate out of .ml, even if I'm Marxist myself. And I encourage OP to do the same.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have been saying that .ml is more than just obnoxious for a while now. They are a legitimate security threat to the broader fediverse. The sooner we rip off that bandaid the better

[–] Tar_alcaran 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, the main Lemmy devs live there

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Okay, so what? It's not like if they become widely defederated there's anything they can do about it. Even if they pushed out an update to remove defederation or make lemmy.ml unable to be defederated, instances can either A. Refuse to accept the update, or B. Block lemmy.ml's IP via their Server's Firewall, that stops all federation actions in or out.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ive noticed that said more extreme viewpoints are starting to migrate to other instances. I fear the fediverse (specificly lemmy) has become a nazi bar except we got tankies instead of nazis.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

If you really want to see just how bad your instance's admins and moderation are, check out [email protected].

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Have you considered just moving to a new instance? I like my slrpnk instance.