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The defending champion said he quit as a "matter of principle" after being told to change his jeans.

Archived version: https://web.archive.org/web/20241229085023/https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c98lkrdkz70o

SpinScore: https://spinscore.io/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.com%2Fnews%2Farticles%2Fc98lkrdkz70o

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[–] [email protected] 131 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Maintaining fashion standards (nb: hygiene is a separate issue) in an intellectual contest is so fucking stupid. Who decided jeans were less formal than khakis anyway?

[–] [email protected] 120 points 5 days ago (18 children)

Assholes trying to gatekeep the poors from their hobbies.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 days ago

Chess wants to maintain an air of elitism.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

The article I read yesterday about it was skewed a little different.

He was out for lunch with a friend and went straight to the tournament after and forgot he was wearing jeans. He offered to change them for the next day but they said he had to do it now, at which point he said it was a matter of principal and walked off. I know I have no idea how the "societal elite" live but I don't carry an extra set of pants on me when I go places.

As someone who accidentally ended up on a management level web cam meeting with a "death and taxes being the only thing you can count on" shirt, I understand not realizing what you are wearing in the morning. I have since made changes to what I allow myself to wear on working days

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Wearing the shirt backwards would have worked in a pinch, unless the back had a guillotine and said "Eat the Rich".

Here I am designing tshirts.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I very well could have run to my room and change the shirt. But it was a call from my boss so I answered and he said we were hoping on a call to discuss this crisis and I said ok. It wasn't until I looked at my picture on zoom that I nice what I was wearing and at that point we were 20 minutes into the call. Anyone paying attention would have already seen the shirt and I figured it would be stranger for me to stop the camera and run and change the shirt.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

I still don't understand why it matters. Everyone in the call pays taxes and will die eventually, everyone in the call knows what a joke T-shirt is, and presumably they are all functioning adults who put aside their own quirks to pretend to be normal just like the rest of us. Them execs probably do some weird 50 shades stuff on the weekend.

It's probably because I'm a software dev, but my zoom call outfits/hair/background get zero of my attention. An interview, sure, but if I feel like my shirt affects my standing on the team at all then I've certainly lost faith in my performance and personality.

Am I trippin?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

"Two simple words: I, forgot. I'm sorry, I forgot to pay my taxes. I forgot armed robbery was illegal." - Steve Martin

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Relevant links:

Emphasis on the third link, on what's not allowed: sneakers, jeans, t-shirts. Under the claim that it's "to maintain the high standards of the FIDE World Rapid & Blitz Championships"... yeah, nah, non sequitur.

And more importantly it shows that the dress code in question is NOT about decency, or preventing cheating, or not distracting other players; it's all about "if you dress casually we're going to be assumptive trash and assume that you don't take the competition seriously." No wonders Carlsen walked away from it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The NBA requires players to suit up when arriving at a game. Some MLB teams require pretty strict dress codes (famously the Yankees and facial hair).

Organized sports can be weird to say the least.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Note: since I don't watch basketball or baseball, I had to dig for further info. As such take what I say with a grain of salt.

...they sound equally as silly and arbitrary as FIDE's dress code. In special, apparently the NBA dress code (when arriving at a game, as you said; inside the game it's another can of worms) was created to target hip hop clothing, associating it with crime; this is clearly prejudice.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

Mattingly I thought I told you to shave those sideburns

[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

The dress code is designed to ensure fairness and professionalism sounds like school officials saying we take the safety of our students very seriously whenever they've done something really stupid.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

While i respect your sentiments, if you're active in the chess community, you'll know that Magnus' actions are being shunned by many. The players typically get to vote on the dress code, and they are well informed beforehand about what that decision is.

The real reason Magnus' left the tournament was to stir up some drama and publicity that he can then use to promote his Freestyle Chess tournament.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Magnus never fails to milk magnus.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

Also jeans better hide the cheese computer butt plugs.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 5 days ago (7 children)

I could absolutely see a dresscode being enforced heavily if it was seen by the opponent during the match, then a choice of color or style could be done to mess with the opponent, but they sit at a table, the opponent can't see his pants, as long as the pants would be acceptable for an IT guy in an office, they should be acceptable here

[–] [email protected] 61 points 5 days ago

if it was seen by the opponent during the match, then a choice of color or style could be done to mess with the opponent

Somehow I doubt a loud tie is banned. This is just arbitrary shit made up by petty tyrants.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

I've worked IT jobs that require khakis and it's equally stupid and pointless.

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