Electric Vehicles

I’m so sick of people pretending we can consume our way out of this, it needs regulations and that’s the only way.

There will always be tesla fanboys whenever the brand is talked down. Sadly, the points brought up by OP have been valid for years.

Stories of teslas not shutting down in crashes, leaving paramedics unable to assist, and doors locking while updating are still present for the cars, whereas nearly all other vehicles don't do dumb things like "escape cords" but just use mechanical locks that won't fail on a power outage.

Pretty much go for only Hyundais or Kias. They’re all in on EVs and they’re fantastic. I have an Ioniq 5 and while it does have issues, every car does, and it has a tenth the issues that teslas and others do.

Not in-depth, but a complete list with some specs to get you started. https://evadoption.com/ev-models/bev-models-currently-available-in-the-us/

https://electrek.co/ is a decent source for EV news. Beyond that most of your typical car sites have a halfway decent reviews section.

If you are on the market now, I can recommend the BMW i4. They are desperately trying to get their name in the game and are offering ridiculous discounts, before the end of the year.

I recently leased a BMW i4 M50 and absolutely love it.

Go to Autotrader, advanced search, fuel type: electric.

Now you can see all the available EVs from all brands.

Look at the specs. Charging speed, range, cost. Go feel how they feel to drive. There's not that many options so easy to see them all.

GM was an early alternative choice, but I don't have much but anecdotal evidence that they're good. I'm looking at a Hyundai, electric Silverado, or Rivian to replace my 10yo pickup sometime in the next 2-5 years.

Of all the ones I've test driven, none of them meet or exceed Tesla's "Supervised FSD", but that's a non starter because fuck that guy.

1998 Toyota Tercel.

If you're in the US, wait about a year and you'll have a bunch of better options from the traditional automakers.

The thing that makes Tesla compelling to me is their charger network, and Ford, GM, etc are adopting the Tesla standard in upcoming models. I think Ford is doing the switch in 2025.

I'm a truck guy, and the F150 lightning looks way, way more compelling than the Cybertruck, because they're making what I want. A truck that happens to be electric. Ford has been making F-series trucks for over 75 years and has made a pretty refined package in that time. They took that design, put in an electric motor and used the space savings for a frunk.

That's what I want. The revolution should be in how it's powered, not in how it operates.

I like our Hyundai Kona a lot.

So if all cars are privacy nightmares we'd have to pick the least bad option. Tesla is the worst option because you have a privacy nightmare plus it's ran by a guy who has a history of abusing his power by doing things like banning journalists on his "X" platform. Could he one day use the data collected by Tesla cars against someone he doesn't like?

Hey man don't let that get to you, at the end of the day if you have an already paid vehicle the smart move is to run it as long as you can bear it, it's also the most eco friendly. It sucks about Elon and it's definitely a big part of why my EV isn't a Tesla (among other things) but who cares what people think when they see you on the road you know you've got your heart in the right place. If it bothers you so much just put one of these stickers on it.

Chinese brands are affordable because they pay their workers slave wages. Fuck off with that.

I'm not asking for anything. I just wanted to warn people so they are not stuck with a heap of junk from a company who's CEO endorses neo-Nazi political parties.