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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't know how I feel about this, but tbh that is based on what they were, not what they are.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

As a 5th gen Prelude owner, the new model offends me. I'm not excited to see it come back this way. The real 6th gen Prelude is a 7th gen V6 Accord coupe.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And the new company shall be called Honda-san.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

Honda-kun ??

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean for Nissan it's either this, get bought out by the Chinese, or closer down. I think this is the best outcome of a bad situation.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Nissan has a head start when it comes to electric cars, and Honda really missed the boat on that one, so hopefully some cool electric cars come out of this synergy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

I wouldn't say they have much of a head start. They did come out with the Leaf pretty early on but they didn't really capitalize on that and their design is quite dated by this point.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Afaik Honda is using GM platforms for their new car?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago

Can't think of any modern mergers that didn't result in a worse situation than it started. Stellantis has been the biggest train wreck so far. Honda and Nissan don't deserve a bad future like this.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

Honda must be in worse shape than I thought to consider merging with Nissan.

[–] Codilingus 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I hope Nissan doesn't drag Honda down with them. Modern Nissans are trash.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

I like the Nissan Z, but they should have made it electric. And maybe a hard top convertible too.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Welp, guess I'll stop buying Honda. It was nice while it lasted.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Ehhh we'll see. I feel this is more a takeover of Nissan than anything else since Honda's market position and corporate structure is so much stronger.

When Chrysler merged into Fiat becoming FCA, Fiat was the weaker player, but Chrysler had the most institutional level problems (and honestly always have). The merged entity ended up getting the bad baggage from both. In this case Honda has a lot better position to drive real improvements in Nissan.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I feel this is more a takeover of Nissan than anything else since Honda's market position and corporate structure is so much stronger.

Oh, I hope so. Honda makes a famously reliable vehicle and does some pretty interesting robotics research. Nissan seems to have a weird "the boss's kid can do no wrong" vibe (based on a few moments from a documentary that was trying to make it seem like a good thing.)

I am afraid the merger will retain the worst of both, as often seems to happen.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

It's sad because the Frontier is a solid truck

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It should be when you've been building the exact same truck for 20 years straight.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

There's definitely some truth to that but it didn't seem to work out in Nissan's favor in the end.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Here's my obligatory chance to mention the old Nissan hard body pickups, how much better they were than the Frontier IMHO, and how much I wish they would make something like them again.

Not knocking the Frontier so much as saying I loved my old truck and wish I could get it back it or get a new one.

It's probably wishful thinking, but maybe Nissan will get Honda to up their pickup game. I don't care for the Ridgeline.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

It would be nice to have an actual small pickup option

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Been my daily driver for the past 7 years. Well, not Frontier exactly but Navara which is the European equivalent with the main difference being the 2.5 litre turbo diesel engine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.