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    [–] [email protected] 25 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

    Regardless of us using Linux on our home computers, most businesses and services use Windows machines. Your information is likely still stored on Windows machines elsewhere if you interact with the world at all.

    With that in mind, it's worth being aware of Windows security problems when they come up.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

    What would we do when these happen? What could we do in the moment to change anything?

    Join an eventual class action?

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

    That's the big "what if" that hangs over everything isn't it?

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago

    Taking the internet into consideration, I would doubt "most".

    [–] [email protected] 53 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
    [–] TriflingToad 15 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

    Frets On Fire solo

    [–] [email protected] 21 points 16 hours ago
    [–] [email protected] 138 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (10 children)

    There's absolutely zero need to mention any other OS than Windows if the article is about Windows.

    I guarantee you that 2025 will not be the year of the Linux desktop, just like 2024 wasn't, and just like 2023 wasn't, just like 2022 wasn't...

    Signed,

    Linux users that aren't annoying and aren't driving people away from using Linux with their self-righteous smugness.

    [–] [email protected] 23 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

    i don't see how this is annoying when it is literally posted to a community called "linuxmemes"

    [–] babybus 12 points 17 hours ago

    This is just a meme in a linuxmemes community. There is no need to be offended.

    [–] [email protected] 44 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

    Nah, 2025 is the year of the Linux on the desktop.

    [–] [email protected] 20 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

    we're sure of it this time!

    /s

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    [–] [email protected] 6 points 18 hours ago

    Hey don't give up on 2024 yet

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

    Would it even be a good thing if Linux became super main stream? Maybe we should be careful what we wish for.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

    How would it be bad? More hardware support, more users not feeding data to corporations, more software support and so on.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

    I'm not sure. I envision a lot of regulatory stuff happening around the kernel as it becomes more popular & vital to infrastructure. As that happens, the direction of it becomes more controlled and eventually maybe becomes unrecognizable.

    But maybe the fact it's open source flat out prevents that?

    I really don't know, I'm not a futurists, I was just internet speculating.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

    The Linux kernel is already popular & vital to infrastructure, servers and Android exist

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 57 minutes ago

    That's true.

    But Android getting more & more locked down as time goes on is a good example of what I'm afraid of might start happening once there are too many cooks in the kitchen.

    I'm just speculating out of nowhere.

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 20 hours ago

    Im sure by next december arch will have 51% of desktop os market share.

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    [–] [email protected] 58 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

    If you think being on Linux makes you immune for attacks, I have bad news for you.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

    The way I have always liked to put it specifically is that Linux is not inherently more secure than windows. However Linux is inherently easier to secure than Windows. Namespaces, apparmor, seccomp-bpf, and a very fine grain limited vs super user permission system. Just to name a few top level things.

    The tools are all there on basically any system, very well documented, relatively easy to use. And once you set them up they will not randomly change things on you. I say this as a system administrator having to deal with Windows constantly where Microsoft decides that they are smarter than you and fuck your group policy edits because we put out this update and we think this option is better so we're going to revert like half the shit you did. Over half my fucking job and security is just checking what did Microsoft fuck up about my security set up with this update, and trying to rotate through security vendor 2094726 to fill in the absolute basic security processes that windows doesn't provide

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 18 hours ago (7 children)

    there are much less vulrenabilities on Linux. No system is totally unpenetrable, but having 2-5 vulrebabilities is always better than having 30-40

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

    VMS is really fucking close to impenetrable.

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    [–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago

    Realistically the difference is in how Linux mitigates the common vectors for attack that Windows doesn't. Most malware targeting individual workstations gets in by either supply chain attack, vulnerable web renderer or by tricking the user into installing it.

    Centralized repositories with centralized build tooling limits opportunities for supply chain attacks, plus helps prevent users from accidentally downloading a Trojan when trying to grab other software. Containerizing web applications helps limit browser exploits, and less "features" phoning home means a default incoming-deny firewall policy will largely prevent most vulnerabilities from being remotely serious.

    So for an individual workstation, Linux is significantly safer from viruses. In the enterprise it's a completely different story where the threat environment does require defense in depth regardless of your choices of vendors

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    [–] [email protected] 12 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

    Sometimes Mint tells me there are security updates available. Happened just this morning. Updating makes me feel good :)

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

    And it had the Edge of not installing Candy Crush

    [–] Jakeroxs 1 points 10 hours ago

    And put edge back in the taskbar.....

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago

    And I can do it wherever I want. And my work is in no way interrupted, while the updates go through.

    [–] [email protected] 18 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

    People here running *nix OSes while I run a Nix*OS

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

    Is not having an anti-virus good for most people though?

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

    Anti-virus is not going to stop you from stupidity. You classic "Anti-virus" won't stop anything more than run of the mill simple stuff.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

    Most of the time that's what people need an antivirus for, most attacks the average person will suffer will be some script that's easily caught by the antivirus.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

    If the script doesn't have permission to do anything it doesn't matter. See Android as an example.

    [–] [email protected] 15 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

    most antivirus apps are very invasive, heavy on resources and even spy on you. Windows defender is usually enough. However, virustotal is still recommended

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    [–] TriflingToad 6 points 17 hours ago

    On one side, if you have a brain you're fine.
    On the other side, *glances at general public typing google.com into google* ...yeah

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

    I mean... a form of Microsoft Defender is available for Linux, but only for enterprise customers if I remember correctly 😅

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