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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

Shizuku + canta and you can forget about bloatware

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

I haven't considered Google android as usable for like a decade, went down the custom ROM route and it's the best thing I've ever done when it comes to mobile use.

Being able to install what ever operating system I want is a hard make or break for me when it comes to purchases ever since.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

I'm switching to FairPhone as soon as my current phone dies. https://www.fairphone.com/

[–] GhiLA 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

They bought it...

Not my problem if someone doesn't read the tiniest bit about a $600+ product before purchase.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's 2025 already?

Shit, I overslept again.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Wake me up when this eternal September ends

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Now I got that Pink Floyd song in my head

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I moved from samsung's trash-filled bloat os to lineageos, and my only regret is not doing it sooner.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Welcome to the club. I've been a member since 2019 and am definitely not giving up my membership anytime in the near future.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

Back then it was easy. We could even run our bank apps on rooted unlocked phones

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I wasn't a member quite that far back, but I kept up with the scene enough to know that it had changed to lineage OS when that occurred.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (5 children)

You mean recent Samsung devices are compatible?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

I buy my device only based on if I can load a differenti os

This is the mandatory prerequisite for me.

So i bought a refurbished s20u (same spec of s24u except for camera and CPU basically)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Search for lineage os your phone model if you're lucky someone will have ported the project to your device, the more popular it was the more likely

There are reasonable instructions

Your phone will need an unlocked bootloader, and it will not be able to be locked again while running lineage. This will prevent the use of any secure software which includes most bank apps, login authenticators. Local security is entirely bypassed by the unlocked bootloader

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

The problem with Samsungs is thar once unlocked, you permanently burn the knox security fuse. So, even if you re-lock it, it's not going to play nice with banking apps. It's a one-way install only. Also I'm not so sure how LOS plays with banking apps... The only one that allows full re-lock AFAIK is the Pixel (which is what I have now, after nearly a decade on Samsung).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The frustrating thing is all the information and materials to support Samsung devices is out there, but the custom ROM development community is so ridiculously toxic and unhelpful to newcomers that few people are willing and able to mainline new devices (and supporting a new device is complicated enough that you pretty much can't get started without someone more experienced to point out the decades of cruft, pitfalls, and vendor-specific workarounds that the build processes have accumulated). More of the old guard leaves every year without enough new blood to replace them.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

Because Google and Samsung are rich and powerful.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I thought it is still 2024

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You think the problem will go away this month?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Of course not! But it doesn't go away even in 2026 and I wouldn't write that in the article.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

On android you also have Shizuku and Canta.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Canta + Shizuku is what I use as well.

Shizuku is a way to temporarily get semi-root privileges without needing a computer, via wireless debugging to your own phone.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I think you just do adb commands without a computer

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

That probably makes more sense

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Thanks for the Canta recommendation!

[–] zqps 1 points 6 days ago

I just run ADB.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I just install LineageOS. It doesn't have any bloatware or Android modifications that the manufacturer added

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That's great if you have one of the handful of phones supported, but for the rest of us, not so much.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I bought my current phone specifically because it was supported by LineageOS. Before that I used an unsupported Samsung phone, which was such a shitty experience that I made a promise to myself that my next phone has to have custom ROMs available

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

GrapheneOS > LineageOS, but unfortunately the list of supported devices is even smaller.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I like what GrapheneOS is doing, but it's focused on having the absolute best security rather than supporting a lot of phones. If you aren't wanted by three letter agencies then LineageOS is good enough

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

If you aren't wanted by three letter agencies

Keep in mind, you don't have to be an activist or journalist to get targeted with sophisticated spyware. This very recent Lemmy post is a great example: https://slrpnk.net/post/15858999

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

And I can immediately say goodbye to important apps I need.

I'm so fracking tired of not being able to just use the OS 😞 want on my phone because apparently my phone isn't mine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

What does this have to do with GrapheneOS (compared to Lineage)? Did you reply to the wrong comment?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

This is from some post where authy, revolut, and a bunch of other apps no longer permit Graphene OS

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

It seems to apply to all third party operating systems. I pretty much have to use stock or I can't use my bank apps, can't use my phone to prove I'm me when remote logging in to work

I used to use cyanogen then lineage until security stuff made the phone too useless.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

I don't even pay any attention. I boot the phone for the very first time, go through the setup thing, and click no to as many things as possible, get into the home screen, open settings, open developer settings, turn on USB debugging, and turn the phone off and install lineage OS with no Google apps.

[–] DaCrazyJamez 4 points 1 week ago

Worthless article. But the point is valid...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Simple answer: because people keep buying bloated phones

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