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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Recently, my phone updated without my consent (even though I turned auto updates off) and added Gemini

Like WTF Samsung

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Because it's profitable.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

This is most prevalent on androids, even stock pixel. As much as I like to shit on apple, they have less bloat on your phone. Of course whatever native app you have on there, you wouldn't able to delete, whereas on android you could delete it if you really wanted to.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Few people want to pay full price for their phone.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I mean, yeah, but there's also manufacturer bloatware. This model year, Samsung in particular has outdone themselves with the implementation of their AI chatbot nearly zero percent of their customer base wanted.

[–] [email protected] 135 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (7 children)

and the most delicious kind of money of all: dark money! ooooh it's so good because the sources of the dark money offer you a lot of it, and they specifically ask you not to ask questions, which is so good for you because these bloatware programs make your device sell worse and provides no value as a sales platform because it turns out that billboards and radio spots are, surprisingly, the most effective form of advertising.

but! you have a sense of solidarity. you have faith that by never offering a phone without bloatware, your entire industry will ensure that all phones won't have bloatware. you rest easy at night knowing your phone won't sell poorly, at the end of the day, because every phone is like this. your contributions to a surveillance and propaganda machine that should punish you in the market because won't because all your peers are your allies in this.

and it gets better! every time someone else's phone gets more bloatware and more dark money attached, then everyone else appears comparatively better, allowing them to get worse. ooooh you love it so much when you get to take more dark money. and all it costs you are several thousand lives far away from your big mansion. you don't even have to see the suffering

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

For the same reason we have every fucking other problem in the world right now.

Capitalism.

You cannot align incentives towards growing the wealth of a microscopic yet astronomically lecherous group of monsters and expect society to not just crumble under the weight.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yep, time zones. Some places are in 2025 already and the US is stuck in 1940.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

you suggestij we win this fight within this month?

press X to doubt

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Because it's profitable to include.

Why would companies care as much about the minor brand value decrease in the eyes of more technical users when they can make more money right now by making things shittier?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago (15 children)

Because people keep buying Xiaomi and Samsung shit that's loaded with crap (at least over here, I understand this varies massively by region).

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (11 children)

Base Android is also loaded with crap, directly from Google. Android is the worst mobile operating system, with the exception of all the others.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (21 children)

And laptops, desktops, televisions ...

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[–] Lucidlethargy 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You mean it'll all magically go *POOF!* come the new year?!? I'll wait until then to set up my new phone, then!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

They are a prefect example of I'm a prviliged person who has not suffered so I refuse to believe that the current system causes suffering

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago

Basically, because we don't own our devices. We are allowed to use our devices by the good graces of the manufacturers that charge a premium for them.

This really needs to change. I remember the preinstalled app antitrust suit(s) in the early 00s. Those need to happen again, but likely the EU will have to as the US is entering a dark age, and the US will continue to have inferior everything to the rest of the world for the foreseeable future.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's called enshitification. Deshitification isn't so much a thing.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Is it really enshitification if it was like this from essentially the start?

Outside of like literally the very first few android phones when there wasn't even apps for the platform, they came bundled with all sorts of shit. I remember my HTC from 2010 drove me insane with the junkware bundled in, and that was about 2 years post Android's first phone. We're at like more or less steady state shitification. (varies by phone/brand)

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Facebook, Netflix and Spotify are bloatware.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Most people aren't - they've given up the fight.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (25 children)

The problem is that most phones don't support ROM's like Graphene or Linage, as people installing custom roms is a relic of years past. Next time you get a phone, think about if you want this option for yourself. Also, do keep in mind that some phones have HW backdoors on them, so even installing a stock rom/graphene does not save you from privacy.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

They made it very hard to install roms.

There is this orange warning on boot.

Then banking apps don't work.

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