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Summary

Internet sleuths, who often assist in high-profile investigations, are notably silent on the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson.

Popular figures like TizzyEnt and Savannah Sparks cited disinterest, with some expressing disdain for the U.S. healthcare system, which has faced heightened criticism amid record-low public satisfaction.

Many online users appear apathetic, failing to empathize with the wealthy victim.

The lack of engagement contrasts with past cases like Gabby Petito’s, where online communities played key roles. Meanwhile, the NYPD continues its investigation, releasing surveillance footage and offering a $10,000 reward for tips.

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[–] [email protected] 184 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Failing to empathize with the wealthy victim

Lmao

[–] [email protected] 99 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Is it because I suck at English (non-native speaker) or are they straight up blaming people for not empathizing with that (former) waste of oxygen?

[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 week ago

That's the implication.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, no, you got it right, waste of oxygen is right.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Correct. Who they blame is hilariously irrelevant.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes, but also going a bit further and suggesting that lack of empathy is primarily because he was a rich person rather than the untold hardships he's inflicted on countless families

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Rekorse 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Its absolutely worse that he did all his awful shit for the sake of money.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yep. An evil person doing evil things is expected. If he was a good person (not implying he is) then he can recognize that he was doing evil and chose to do so to benefit himself. That's worse.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Ironically, he wasn't even the most paid among other healthcare CEOs.

I don't feel sorry for him, as making money on misfortune of others is very low.

Though there are even worse people, and not necessarily in insurance industry.

The serial impregnator of everything that moves now is interested to influence our government to cut "unnecessary" spending, which likely will hurt much more people.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 week ago (8 children)

"Making money on the misfortune of others" is a way too charitable way of describing what he was doing.

He was making money by making people die. Often in slow, excruciating ways that drained them and their families of all of their wealth and hope along the path.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Still, it's the message that matters.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It was the standard "terrible tragedy" blah blah "thoughts and prayers".

The actual message we saw was from Trump Jr "Internet do your thing, let's find this guy".

The new president elect so far nominated 14 billionaires in his cabinet (do you think they are there to improve our lives?) yet OP tries to imply that Democrats are pro oligarchs, as we are about to have oligarchs ruling is from the "anti-establishment" president.

Want to fight injustice, maybe start with those.

[–] [email protected] 158 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I would say "failing to empathize" is not correct. Failing implies trying. Calling him a victim seems disengenuous as well. Even if the shooter is a contract killer, there's no way he has a higher KDR than the parasite he capped.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm might be disinclined to empathize.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Given that people have been manipulated and have lost all control to the wealthy, this may be the only "solution" left. Ironic that the well armed right may end up leading the way.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

Succeeding to empathize? Feels more accurate.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

If they ever catch the person and their defence team argues self-defence I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

[–] [email protected] 108 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Brian Thompson was a mass murderer. It’s not hard to understand why people wouldn’t want to help, here.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yup and I wish more people would connect the dots on how much pain, suffering, and mass murder every top American company commits on a daily basis.

Indirect violence is the number one problem in capitalism. Remember all the train derailments or Boeing planes dropping out of the sky? Those failures were by design to increase profits. If our politicians and "justice system" isn't going to hold the people who make decisions and those decisions harm people, accountable. Vigilante justice is going to be on the rise.

Mark my word. Every Fortune 500 company leadership needs to be put on notice. America has given up on political means to make meaningful positive change. And with Trump, there is no safety net (what little there was remaining) and the wealthy are going to be killed at an alarming rate. We're near rock bottom and Trump and conservatives is scrabbling to cash out as fast as possible.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

It's always endlessly frustrating when people don't realize, or don't want to realize, what you wrote

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

As far as I'm concerned, this guy is a hero the same way someone who stops a mass shooting in progress is a hero

[–] [email protected] 105 points 1 week ago

Corporate media is hilarious.

I love how them and the NYT say it’s a “fringe theory” that the writing on the bullets had anything to do with insurance practices.

[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We all smell a revolution.

May there be many copycats.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Those copy cats are gonna throw off the scent

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I smell a new male fashion trend.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Grey hoodies and a charming smile? I’m down.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don't forget the mask. Be considered of cold and flu season.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Yes, of course. We certainly don’t want more sick people.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Did you hear about the lookalike competition in Washington Square Park?

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 week ago

Although Sparks, 34, has been tapped by law enforcement in the past to help train officers on how to find suspects online, according to emails seen by NBC News, she said this time she isn’t interested in helping police.

Sparks, who also works in health care as a lactation consultant and holds a doctorate of pharmacy, didn’t mince words when asked if her community was working to find the suspect in Thompson’s murder.

“Absolutely the f--- not,” she said.

Beautiful.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago

I keep seeing all these headlines about "top internet sleuths" and I feel like I would have written that sarcastically but I'm starting to become concerned that these " journalists" are serious about the phrase.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

I am no sleuth, but I wouldn't turn this guy in for 25 million dollars. United Healthcare denied a relative of mine emergency Healthcare when their policies said they would.

As for AI helping... the AI used by unitedhealth had a 90% failure rate and the military AI used by Israel had used to allegedly differentiate civilians from military basically tagged everyone as a target.

So I am not particularly looking forward to it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

I will say I do not condone what the shooter did and hope we find him. Either in 50 years with a deathbed confession or sooner in a case with jury nullification

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why don't you condone it? Justice is good, right? Do you believe justice would be done through the justice system, which the ultra-wealthy have perverted to protect them? If not, how do you want justice to be served?

The justice system exists to give people a method to see justice done that doesn't require vigilantism. When that system no longer works, what option is left to turn to? Should we just let them get away with whatever they want just because they've purchased the system?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

I condone it

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

I don't know why this is news.

Most of the people I know that are analytical enough to sleuth out this kind of thing are also socially aware enough to support universal healthcare.

The individual in question profited off the literal suffering of others by endorsing, creating, or otherwise allowing his company to deny claims for any, and every reason they could. It doesn't matter if he personally denied coverage to anyone; he was responsible for everything the company he was the executive officer of, did.

To that end, he's profited from the suffering of those who were denied help.

He's a piece of shit and the world has been made better because he is no longer a part of it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

I'll do it for 10 million using Chat gpt!.... The first clue is free!

"Sure! I'll help you find your hero! Have you looked behind the couch?"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

it only takes one to fuck it all up.

[–] GhiLA 6 points 1 week ago

No, I won't.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

I hate to say this but

Probably the cops will find someone who looks enough like him, who also is unknown enough they can find / eliminate/ bribe everyone who knows him , then they’ll kill that guy and spin any story they want in the media (who ofc they own or collude with too)

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