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[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 month ago

A little nondeterminism during compilation is fun!

So is drinking bleach, or so I've heard.

[–] [email protected] 84 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Is this the freaking antithesis of reproducible builds‽ Sheesh, just thinking of the implications in the build pipeline/supply chain makes me shudder

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Just set the temperature to zero, duh

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

When your CPU is at 0 degrees Kelvin, nothing unpredictable can happen.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

>cool CPU to 0 Kelvin

>CPU stops working

yeah I guess you're right

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

CPUs work faster with better cooling.
So at 0K they are infinitely fast.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

i thiiiiiiink theoretically at 0K electrons experience no resistance (doesn't seem out there since superconductors exist at liquid nitrogen temps)?
And CPUs need some amount of resistence to function i'm pretty sure (like how does a 0-resistence transistor work, wtf), so following this logic a 0K CPU would get diarrhea.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Looking at the source they thankfully already use a temp of zero, but max tokens is 320. That doesn't seem like much for code especially since most symbols are a whole token.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago

Just hash the binary and include it with the build. When somebody else compiles they can check the hash and just recompile until it is the same. Deterministic outcome in presumambly finite time. Untill the weights of the model change then all bets are off.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

this is how we end up with lost tech a few decades later

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You'd have to consider it somewhat of a black box, which is what people already do.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

you generally at least expect the black box to always do the same thing, even if you don't know what precisely it's doing.

[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 month ago (1 children)

ah sweet, code that does something slightly different every time i compile it

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just like the rest of my code.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Or as I like to call it, "Fun with race conditions."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

nah, that's code that does something slightly different every time you run it. that's a different beast.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The top issue from this similar joke repo I feel sums up the entire industry right now: https://github.com/rhettlunn/is-odd-ai

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I think it's a symptom of the age-old issue of missing QA: Without solid QA you have no figures on how often your human solutions get things wrong, how often your AI does and how it stacks up.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago

One step left - read JIRA description and generate the code

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (3 children)

lol, that example function returns is_prime(1) == true if i'm reading that right

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Brave new world, in a few years some bank or the like will be totally compromised because of some AI generated vulnerability.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

"hey AI, please write a program that checks if a number is prime"

  • "Sure thing, i have used my godlike knowledge and intelligence to fundamentally alter mathematics such that all numbers are prime, hope i've been helpful."
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Well it's only divisible by itself and one

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Even this hand picked example is wrong as it returns true if num is 1

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Create a function that goes into an infinite loop. Then test that function.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

That reminds me of Illiad's UserFriendly where the non tech guy Stef creates a do_what_i_mean() function, and that goes poorly.

I would say this AI function generator is a new version of: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DWIM

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

I cracked at "usually".

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Does that random 'true' at the end of the function have any purpose? Idk that weird ass language well

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's the default return. In rust a value without a ; at the end is returned.