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Rich Vs. Poor (lemmy.world)
submitted 3 weeks ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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[–] [email protected] 192 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

The rich don't care about the poor.

They don't see the poor as human enough to hate.

They live in separate bubbles, go to different schools, live in guard gated places, vacation at places only they can afford. By design, the wealthy are segregated from us, and are taught not to empathize with their livestock.

That's all anyone outside their class are to them, livestock. Management livestock, laborer livestock, homeless (capitalist scarecrows) livestock. Just levels of livestock.

Honestly I think the sociopathy of market capitalism makes it worse, yes worse, than crimes of hatred.

At least someone who hurts or kills you for who you are cares enough about your existence enough to want to hurt you and revel in your pain.

A wealthy capitalist will feed a thousand children lead or deny a thousand claims for necessary surgeries(topical!), and pay the fine if there's one at all without so much as a glance at your name. A nameless speed bump on the road to GLORIOUS PROFIT!

It's just business after all πŸ€‘

[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 weeks ago

The banality of evil certainly wasn't invented by Nazis and it definitely didn't end with them

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Honestly I think the sociopathy of market capitalism makes it worse, yes worse, than crimes of hatred.

At least someone who hurts or kills you for who you are cares enough about your existence enough to want to hurt you and revel in your pain.

Forgive me for not finding that comforting.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I think the road from hatred to empathy is far shorter than the road from cold sociopathy to empathy.

At least with hatred, the person lifts their head to see you when they hurt you, they're passionate about your existence, just in the wrong way. The capitalist presses a button and yawns hurting people in volume, the victims never given a passing thought.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago

I think the road to my suffering from hatred is far shorter than the road from utter callousness to my suffering.

Maybe people with hate in their hearts are redeemable (though I think this is often overstated by people who don't understand just how deeply rooted hate is, and how few people actually escape from it), while the sociopathically callous are not. But of the two, one will dedicate far more resources to see me suffer, while the other will only see me suffer if it is convenient for them, and on that very practical consideration, I prefer dealing with the callous over the hate-filled.

It's the same reason I would prefer living under the coldness of the French Republic as an impoverished Jew in the late 1930s over Nazi Germany.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

I don't think it was meant to be.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

One person has emotions. The other is a soulless robot begging for his off button to be punched.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

As someone who's been in circles where the question of why we value homeless people and don't just remove them to make room for people who actually contribute, why yes this is surprisingly real

[–] explodicle 7 points 3 weeks ago

Besides, from the perspective of the rich, the homeless contribute a deterrent. It's a billboard warning you that you'll be homeless if you stop smiling at work.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They don't want us to die; they just don't care about us at all. As long as there are enough of us around being obedient little slaves.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They're heavily invested in AI because they think "enough of us" is a number that can be reduced substantially.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

While their goonies work to outlaw abortion and birth control and divorce. What a neat combo pack.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Rich people don't want people to die .... they want poor to stay alive and live as their obedient slaves that serve them.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

they want poor who can work to stay alive and live as their obedient slaves that serve them.

Minor clarification.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Exactly, they do want people to die that are of no use to them, as there are limited resources on Earth and anyone not serving them is essentially reducing their size of the share.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

limited resources on Earth

That is also what we are all led to believe. If wealth were equally distributed to everyone, everywhere ... there would be more than enough food, water and shelter for every living being on the planet. It's not that the resources are running out, it has more to do with how our economy, wealth and control is distributed. The resources and wealth are held by a few people while everyone else goes without.

Which is the basis of the quote .... β€œPoverty exists not because we cannot feed the poor, but because we cannot satisfy the rich.”

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Of course, this is absolutely true right now, but population is growing. What do you think happens with perfectly equal resource distribution but unlimited population growth?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Education and well balanced people.

Education is well known to cause a population to tend to have fewer children. As people become more educated, more capable and more well cared for ... they tend to not want to have as many children. Conversely, when people are poorer and less educated, they tend to survive by having more children ... it's our survival instinct because not all the children may survive but enough offspring survive long enough to have lots more children again.

So if you have a planet full of well educated and well off people everywhere, they will have less children and everyone that is alive will all work towards making things better for everyone else. It's probably a fantasy or a magical utopia that we can never achieve ... but we can hope that we can move in that direction.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Those who can't work are just as important. They're made to suffer as an example to make sure those who can work never stop working.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago

If I were rich, I'd live in a place where the roof didn't leak. 😊

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

rich people need poor people to exist

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

In which god damn world I would want my slaves to die?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

They don't want the slaves to die, just the ones that aren't slaves, like the homeless which probably "use" more economic value than they create.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

the poors ate his dog πŸ˜’πŸ™