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I disavow the ignorance displayed in the statement that “Feminists always think women are better than men.” But felt important to share how well received such a message is received on this site.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

the context was one singular example of this happening btw, its still a bad take tho

[–] [email protected] 7 points 23 hours ago

sample size of one goes crazy

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Kind of a roundabout way to say that, but I guess the underlying message is people are equally terrible? That's not really the worst opinion I've seen.

[–] zqps 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The actual message is the "... And feminists are hypocrite liars about it" part you skipped over.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

That is definitely what they said, but they seem to mislabel feminism in general. Since feminism isn't about superiority to men, then who they are referring to is not representative of feminism as a whole. I guess what I'm saying is that they are actually right that anyone that thinks that one group is superior to another is wrong. They are wrong about the term they used to describe someone like that though, which I don't label as the worst thing ever compared to actually thinking the former point. So not understanding the term feminism bad, but also their point directed at the right people isn't wrong.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

thanks for saying the truth lol. i happen to also believe that people are equally terrible but it’s annoying that people are intentionally ignoring the other half of the message.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Don't worry I too hit the comment button without reading sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (7 children)

people just suck tbh

humanity was a mistake

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

ignores the entire first half of the sentence, the half that i highlighted in my post “that’s not really the worst opinion i’ve seen” and twenty odd upvotes

we are so cooked yall

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

They certainly have a misunderstanding of what most people mean when they call themselves feminists. My point was it's not as bad as it could be since they don't demonize what feminism actually is. They think everyone is on an equal level even if they don't have a positive opinion of everyone. I would say misusing a term is not really that bad when they could have said a lot worse like actually saying something along the lines of "women bad." Which I didn't really get that from their post, but perhaps I misunderstood their intentions.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

People will conveniently skim the subtext and skip to the true parts when the text, when taken as a whole, confirms their own biases.

A lot of people see feminism as a "women are better than men" take. It's not, that's radfem, feminism is about equality despite the name as it has roots in the suffragettes movement.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 23 hours ago

good insight, ty

[–] ShareMySims 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah, because "all lives matter"-ing worked so well the first time around.. 🙄

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Lemmy isn't a monolith, and understanding that the fediverse has set itself up as an alternative to centralised platforms, I don't think we should be surprised when trolls who tend to get banned on those other platforms find their way here.

Of course we're going to see a lot of reactionary opinions here. These are the reactionaries that are too reactionary for reddit. They've learned to be less overt in their views because lemmy can excise a whole instance that's just reactionary.

I'd say right now they're trying to radicalise the normies. Vote manipulation is probably part of that strategy to make their views look more accepted than they are.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

i’m not surprised just sad

[–] [email protected] 96 points 2 days ago (11 children)

People are blaming propaganda, I additionally blame the attention economy aka social media algorithms that favor attention. Young men are often shown videos of "crazy feminists" acting stupid, which gives this impression.

If you only see the dumbest people and takes from a movement, big surprise you won't understand it.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

he is so wrong that he got it right at the end... somehow

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