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I disavow the ignorance displayed in the statement that “Feminists always think women are better than men.” But felt important to share how well received such a message is received on this site.

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[–] [email protected] 96 points 2 days ago (5 children)

People are blaming propaganda, I additionally blame the attention economy aka social media algorithms that favor attention. Young men are often shown videos of "crazy feminists" acting stupid, which gives this impression.

If you only see the dumbest people and takes from a movement, big surprise you won't understand it.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

honestly i don’t think it’s too big a stretch to claim that the attention economy you describe is an intentional structure of conservative propagandists.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Not at all a stretch indeed. Although I think they discovered the attention economy, which was initially a side-product of profit-driven social networks.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think your point might also apply the other way - people are also encouraged to make exaggerated, incendiary comments for attention. Mild, reasonable takes, especially not posted quickly, will usually be overshadowed by the more extreme top comments. I believe the poster in question defended themselves claiming it was just an exaggeration.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

excellent analysis. this is part of my reasoning for making posts like these. silly little reactionary posts responding to misunderstanding or bigotry often have some of the more interesting and nuanced discussion and learning in the comments.

tldr i think it’s possible to reverse engineer propaganda structures if you put some thought into it

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I additionally blame the attention economy aka social media algorithms that favor attention

I mean this is also propaganda :P This is how the alt right are setting their hooks in people, by using the algorithms as they are to get boys and young men to listen to their little gurus etc. and slowly pull them right.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

True. The way I see it, this was already a bug of attention-seeking algorithms, which right-wingers rediscovered as a feature.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VzGdo1IDdc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2QGME8KHzY

These two have been lit really doing the root cause analysis. Has to go further, glad to see bell hooks mentioned in the thread. And the curiousity. Conservative propaganda and indoctrination doesn't play fair. Leopards, faces, how long will folks allow their rights be stripped away before their eyes?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not really.

Now they just use the term woke.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Maybe my feed has simply been spared from those videos...

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

The algorithm is unfortunately quite good at figuring out if you're receptive to this stuff or not. If your feed doesn't have it that's a good sign!