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The Daniel Jones era in New York is now officially over.

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[–] imaqtpie 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

RIP my sweet prince. I never stopped rooting for you. Classy final speech too, took responsibility and was grateful for the opportunity he was given. Great dude, average NFL QB. In a good offensive system he could have some success going forward.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Honestly, there are so many teams with shit QB situations right now, this might be the best thing to happen for his career. Bail on the dumpster fire and go prove you can still sling passes elsewhere.

Sucks about the $11 million he's not going to get paid, but then it sucks to suck.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

Only thing wrong with his game is the fumbles. Before the got Malik Nabers no one on that team could get open in the passing game. I can see a team like the raiders or browns turning their teams around.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I always figured that there are 32 starting QB jobs in the NFL at any time, but there are rarely more than 10 good QBs at any time. Most teams will have to make do with mediocre QB play and hope to hell their run game & defense are pretty good.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Which is crazy when you consider the sheer number of athletes in the world, there must be some draw to other sports, or reluctance to take on the QB role, that is creating a shortage.

Like theres's got to be some up and coming cricket bowler in India who has a degree in finite number theory and an international chess rating who could easily throw spirals and learn to call games from the line of scrimmage, but he's like "Nah, I don't want to make ten times as much money."

Is it concussions?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

Concussions could be one thing. But I think there’s enough prestige & cachet in the QB position, not to mention salary potential, that concussion risks ought not to limit the candidate pool overly much.

Personally, I think there are some major factors:

  • Seems like there are comparatively few colleges that run pro-style offenses, so too many of rookie QBs only know how to succeed in pass-heavy offenses against inferior defenses, and can’t handle the transition to running the different scheme against opponents who are all pretty good.
  • Success in the QB position requires skill in an odd combination of areas: memory, pattern recognition, charisma, super fast decision making, ability to hit a moving target with a ball over a line of tall angry men out to hit you, enough ability to scramble to keep defenses honest, strong enough to take repeated painful blows & keep ticking.

I don’t think anything could realistically be done on the second point, but on the first one it would help if more colleges ran offensive schemes typical of what’s in the NFL.

Problem is, schemes in the NFL are great for situations where teams are closely matched. But college teams often have wide disparities in physical talent that can only be offset through creative schemes.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Remember when he had that monster run against the eagles but then just before he was set to cross the goal line a sniper got him (he tripped)? We’ll always have the memories, Danny

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

head full of rocks, that kid, will not miss that dude

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I’m an eagles fan, so I’m pouring one out. I still think he’s a good athlete, just not a good QB. He may have a future in a Taysom-like role

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[–] timbuck2themoon 4 points 5 days ago

Dude went from starter to backup to third string to released in like a week. Crazy.

Would love for Dallas to pick him up.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Coach and GM might be next. Are Giants going to clean house?

[–] imaqtpie 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Probably. You gotta figure the previous regimes (Judge, Shurmur, McAdoo 🤮) have usually been given two years before getting fired, Daboll/Schoen are midway through their third year and the team has steadily gotten worse. Don't think you can keep them next year, assuming they finish 4-13 or something. The few decent players on this team are fed up with losing.

[–] MrSebSin 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

In the right system and with a decent team around him, he’ll be a good QB. When the guy is always running for his life, how do expect him to do anything decent and consistently.

[–] imaqtpie 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah he's apparently looking to go to a contender as a backup. He will win games if given a chance with a competent offense around him.

But it was never going to happen on the Giants, the team is too much of a mess at this point.