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    [–] [email protected] 3 points 12 minutes ago (1 children)

    The only thing I disagree with here is Win8 being apparently better than Win10.

    Win8 was really damn annoying to use without a touchscreen, and while Win8.1 did help, Win10 was by far the better implementation of PC Metro IMO.

    Having said that, Win11 is exactly where it needs to be. It's all of Win10's worst traits cranked up to 11 with a heaping of it's own bullshit and spyware on top

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 57 seconds ago

    Win8 was really damn annoying to use without a touchscreen

    So many people say that but I actually liked the menu. It opened very fast and you could far more quickly find and hit the right tile than that stupid nested programs tree that was the norm in earlier start menus.

    I'd say considering that telemetry started to creep in primarily with Win 10, 8 was indeed better (meaning less bad).

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 30 minutes ago (1 children)

    This implies that Linux is rising but still worse than the worst windows os 🫣🫠🫤😴🤧🤮🥴

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 5 minutes ago

    the graphs are separate, not superimposed. I agree it's confusing

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 19 minutes ago

    Wasn't 98 the precursor to ME? I thought 2000 was the server version (or something like that)?

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 52 minutes ago (2 children)

    Linux is so bad it's worse than everything else even when others are enshittifying aggressively? Got it!

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 20 minutes ago

    Over the years I've tried switching to Linux and it definitely was less user friendly. I think Mint has made huge strides and hopefully will be able to take over.

    [–] [email protected] 27 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

    Vista wasn't that bad. The dodgy selling it on computers that couldn't handle it was an issue (much like they still do with selling laptops with only 32gb storage).

    I still think it was one of the nicest looking - black taskbar with the start button sticking up, sidebar widgets, aero glass etc

    [–] [email protected] 15 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

    It was never stable for me. I remember I had a laptop that would always refuse to shut down because "shutdown.exe" was running

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago
    [–] [email protected] 2 points 29 minutes ago

    I remember the hardware situation being very fucked, due to driver authors not updating their shit in time and people trying to get their older stuff working which worked fine under XP, but was incompatible with Vista's new driver model. It took a couple years until the release of 7 for most of those issues to get ironed out.

    [–] [email protected] 124 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

    Win 10 was definitely an improvement over 8. I'd even argue that 10 as it started out was the best since xp. Of course now 10 has been fully enshitified but it used to be good.

    [–] [email protected] 16 points 2 hours ago

    I would agree that 10 was very good, but i could say similar things about windows 11 which in many ways performs better then 10.

    And yet its shortly after upgrading to 11 that i switched to linux to never look back.

    I think part of the logic in this meme is that it doesn’t matter how good the basic functions of the operating system are but what does is the design philosophy of the company. Loyalty in other systems decreased while Loyalty in windows gained.

    Microsoft force feeding edge, onedrive, burrying the local account option till after the install with Microsoft account.

    Randomly finding an update put a second weather widget on my taskbar that shows a different weather then the one in start. Taskbar icons that cant be closed, only hidden.

    These things don't affect the OS functionality in a big deal but its like i was in an abusive relationship that i finally got out of. No matter how much sweet talking and promises to do better i am not going back.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

    Relatively speaking yes, absolutely speaking, Windows bad

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 38 minutes ago

    Linux isn't an upward curve, either. It mostly is, but those krackle-pops have to put a dent in the curve.

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

    The colouring is shit, MacOS turns red at its peak. So, was it good or bad at that moment?

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

    So good, it's bad

    [–] [email protected] 43 points 3 hours ago (8 children)

    10 and 11 are waaaaaaaay better than 8. But meme is meme.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

    Maybe out of the box, but with classicshell 8 was better

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 20 minutes ago

    my dad genuinely preferred Windows 8 with Classic Shell over Windows 7.

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    [–] [email protected] 32 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

    Windows has commited a sin()

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 2 hours ago

    Why? Just cos.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

    That's not completely true, in Linux there are many points where old software sucks and new software isn't ready for mass adoption. Like when everyone knew x11 was deprecated but nothing supported Wayland (to this day major WMs like cinnamon and xfce still haven't switched over and most small wms never will). It gets better over time but there are dips in quality and Linux devs do sometimes make mistakes.

    [–] SapphironZA 1 points 56 minutes ago

    True, Linux is both the best and the worst at the same time.

    The Base OS is great, but the apps are mostly terrible, with a few notable exceptions.

    [–] [email protected] 19 points 3 hours ago (3 children)
    [–] [email protected] 14 points 3 hours ago (6 children)

    Then, why it has ads on start menu?

    [–] Kecessa 10 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

    Never had any ads in 10 or 11

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

    Nor did I. Considering it was an upgrade from Win 8 as well.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

    I think it might be American thing.

    [–] Kecessa 2 points 32 minutes ago

    Yep, I configure it with English UK as the windows display language then adjust my settings based on my real needs.

    [–] [email protected] 16 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

    And half of the settings moved from old control panel to a new crappy UI settings. At least commit and move all of them.

    I never find what I am looking for in there, without opening and closing a bunch of windows. I swear they regularly move location of some settings. Search function is pretty bad too.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

    Oh they want to, but i bet that shit's so intertwined that removing old audio menu will make your display output stop working.

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    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

    time just startend standing still for Windows after 10

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    [–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

    What's so bad about win 11 as an OS? For me it's the most stable windows. Of course the MS crap they want you to include is bs, but that's not really the OS

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 1 hour ago

    Rule of thumb: If it's included with an install where you're clicking through the defaults, to the average user the distinction doesn't matter, it's part of the OS

    [–] [email protected] 19 points 2 hours ago

    It's part of the OS? All of the telemetry, ads, and strange news thingy is a standard part of the OS - if you try to remove it, it'll just get back with any updates.

    So it is really the OS

    it's the same way ubuntu bad now, forcing snaps

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 3 hours ago

    Easy to have a constant upward trend when you start off in your parents basement…

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