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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/22226160

Reportedly high budget has brought Apple TV+ a lot of prestige, but not a lot of viewers.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

I’ve watched a few things. Fantastic sets and production quality. Terrible acting and writing.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Maybe if they made an android app that works on phones and tablets.

Android app Currently only works on androidTV boxes if you can figure out how to create 2 Apple accounts

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

That's why I pirate their shows. Most are still rather mediocre.

[–] mindbleach 2 points 6 days ago

Mandatory licensing or fuck off.

This landscape of pointless silos is not competition.

People want shows. Every streaming service is an obstacle. Each one exists purely because some asshole wants a 30% cut, off the top, instead of just making the thing and selling it to people.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I keep seeing that they have some good science fiction shows and meaning to sign up. I just haven't. Maybe when work buys me a new phone. I seem to remember a free couple of months last phone. I just didn't get around to it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

I really enjoy The Foundation. It almost gives you whiplash by switching between slow burn and intense action. But I do not mean that in a bad way whatsoever. A really cool aspect of the show is that it does not take place over the span of a normal movie. It takes place over a couple(?) of centuries. There's different characters that come and go, and some others that have other ways of surviving the long time span. But it really shows you the long term consequences of certain actions.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

There is definitely a good amount of good sci fi. Definitely worth checking out when you can get a free promo. They come up fairly frequently, I've had 3 free 3 months (9) over the past year and a half or so

[–] FrustratedArtist 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Any particular sci-fi shows that caught your eye? Been wanting to check something out.

[–] 31337 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Severance is great. Silo is OK. For all Mankind was great in the earlier seasons. Foundation is good. Extrapolations is good, but too unrealistic for the subject matter, IMO. Dark Matter (2024) is pretty good, reminds me of Sliders from my childhood.

Edit: Oh, Sunny was good too.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 week ago (2 children)

As an Android user, how do you propose I watch?

I'm aware that you released to some Android TV devices a few years ago, you haven't released to the Android OS yet and as a Chromecast user I'm still out of luck.

You're ignoring a huge section of the market, so go fuck yourself Apple. You don't get to ignore users and then complain that no one is watching.

Do you remember when Game of Thrones was only available via HBO Go, which was only available via iOS devices and then Game of Thrones was the most pirated TV show? I FUCKING WONDER WHY???

I've (somehow?) watched a number of Apple shows and they are good shows. Mythic Quest, Shrinking, Severance. I'm you're target audience, it's time you pay attention to that audience. You're not picking me up now, I've already found "other methods" but you can win me back if you make it easier. It's going to take some time, but time to get started.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

As an Android user, how do you propose I watch?

I have an iPhone and a couple Apple TVs.

I’m usually watching on my desktop computer.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I rage-quit after 4 episodes of Foundation, so I don't remember how we were watching, but it was either on a PS3 or in Firefox on a Linux box. Those are the only two things I have ever had hooked to the TV. I haven't used the PlayStation for ages, so we were probably watching it through a browser.

https://support.apple.com/guide/tvplus/watch-in-a-web-browser-apdc0cb7ad64/web

You need an account, but not an Apple device.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You can't watch Foundation with any expectation of it matching the books. I said I wouldn't watch it but I broke down after I finished For All Mankind. The only thing that really bothered me is Gaal being so hysterical. Chill the fuck out girl.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I wasn't expecting it to. The visuals were stunning, and the actors were good, but the writing was atrocious, the plot devices annoying, and all of the characters were uniformly unlikeable - especially the main ones. Gaal wasn't the only one; maybe just the most extreme.

I forced myself to watch almost the entire first season, but rage quit when it got to the point when I spent entire episodes wanting to shout at the characters to stop bring so stupid.

It wasn't a bad adaptation, because the only thing it shared with the books were some names; I was expecting that. It was a bad show, with awful writers, and that I couldn't stand.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I sympathize with the wanting shout at characters.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

What bugs me the most is that in Foundation, the plots often involved smart people being outsmarted by smarter people. In the show, people cause their own failures through their stupidity. There's no intellectualism in the show; it's action and people reacting, often poorly just as a lot device. I can't stand characters being stupid just to further a plot.

Grrrr. And it was so beautiful. So. Frustrating.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Apple TV is the best streaming service at the moment, hands down. I say this as a lifelong Apple hater. So many bangers:

  • Slow Horses
  • Silo
  • Ted Lasso
  • Severance
  • Bad Monkey

Then I have Shrinking and Disclaimer on my to watch list.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

For all mankind is fantastic too

[–] prettybunnys 2 points 6 days ago
[–] prettybunnys 2 points 6 days ago

Sunny was good too

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Pachinko is one of the best shows across any streaming service, yet for some reason, Apple has buried it to the point that it’s nearly impossible to find in their UI.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

I am on the fence about disclaimer. It is not a bad show, I am just unsure I like the subject matter. So far everything we have watched on Apple TV we have enjoyed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Shrinking is incredibly good if you enjoyed Ted Lasso. They characters are real and don't make stupid "ish" decisions because they understand consequences exist. They also dont use movie logic. If something happens, it's not brushed under the rug, but it's also not blown out of proportion. It is dealt with how humans would actually deal with it. The show relies on good characters, and real life issues dealt with in a new goofy way. The only issue I have is they kinda let the train off the rails a little in season two, but it's still very grounded compared to most all other media.

A perfect 5/7

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

I already subscribe to enough services and I really don't want to give Apple my money.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There's plenty Id really like to watch on Apple TV. In fact, I watched Severance using my parents account while they had it temporarily. But now that I've tried it, I know that there's no point in me getting it because they make it as hard as possible to watch anything if you don't have specific devices. Literally all the other streaming services make it stupid easy to watch what you want using any device. But Apple still has a decades old stick up their ass about proprietary bullshit and they want you to get an iPhone for the simplest experience. I have loads of different devices and I ended up using an old MacBook with chrome to cast the browser to my TV. And that was really annoying and I'm not about to pay for that experience. You want my money? Make it easy. It's that simple.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Maybe a bit late to the party but I know you can watch through https://tv.apple.com after you login

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I just watch shows. Don't care which network they come from. :)

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Are people not watching? It’s my understanding that the movies have flopped but the tv shows are doing well.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

There are some definite hits and some definite misses on Apple TV+ here's the best and worst I've seen so far:

"For All Mankind" - An awesome realistic Sci-Fi show that feels like a prequel to "The Expanse". 4 seasons so far of top notch Sci-fi. Highly suggest for folks that were into The Expanse.

"Silo" - Premise is basically Fallout except they call the vaults "silos" instead. Excise the peppy energy and self-awareness of Fallout and boom, you've got your gray mush run of the mill dystopian thriller "Silo". It's been a real yawner for me, I couldn't make it through even 4 episodes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

The Silo books are way better. They seemed to have changed some plot points to tell a slightly different story, but the main premise seems to be holding up. Book two is a huge tonal shift, so it'll be interesting to see how they handle that in the show.

[–] AwesomeLowlander 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Apple has about 259 shows and movies compared to Netflix’s approximately 18,000.

Given genre preferences, that's about 20 watchable shows, then?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Netflix has about the same to me… which I just download now after I found out I can only watch 720p in Firefox hahaha

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I watch Apple TV shows more than any other service. I love SciFi and they have an excellent set of shows in that genre.

I can tell no one is watching though. The just cancelled Big Door Prize, which was really good.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Can you recommend some from their service?

I have quite a few of their shows already but I’m super into so-fi so I’ll take any recs I can get.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Yeah! I saw Severance and For All Mankind mentioned. I also like Silo, The Big Door Prize, Monarch, Foundation, and Sunny. There’s some others that I haven’t watched. I saw a lot of people mention Dark Matter.

Also Big Door Prize got canceled after season 2 so you might skip that. It leaves a lot of mysteries unanswered.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

severance is one of the best shows anywhere in the last few years. For All Mankind is also really good.

See and Foundation are okay/watchable.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

So it turns out I have all of those, but only briefly started for all mankind (wrong headspace for it at the time). So I’ll bump those all up my watch list, thanks!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

They're not available here, and can I even watch on Google TV? Sailing the high seas seems to be the best. Not my problem if I need an apple tv to watch apple tv +

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Not my problem if I need an apple tv to watch apple tv +

You do not need an AppleTV to watch. The app is available on quite a few popular platforms, including many SmartTVs, Roku, Fire Sticks, PS4, PS5, several Xbox models, and Android TV.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

On android TV there's an app. Amazon's Appstore as well for their fire TV sticks. But yeah

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If I were to commit myself to a single streaming service it would probably be Apple TV

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