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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Never say privacy. Always say libre software. That's why.

[–] Jumuta 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

chromium is still 'libre' though, so I don't think that's enough

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You don't have a better two word attack.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Get off Reddit. Karma grind is not worth it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Agree, I am primarily on lemmy now. People here are way nicer to each other than Reddit

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (5 children)

People here are way nicer to each other than Reddit

If one has the right kind of opinions. 🤷

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago

trash at loading html

what

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

The op in that post is 14 years old at most. Just look at how that shot is tailored.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wouldn’t it be better to at least put a modicum of effort in to have some privacy, than to put zero effort in and have none at all?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago

"No, they would never track us. But if they were, it would be a good thing."

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

~Normies~ bots

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

The one saying they use copilot for math problems is the worst part. It demonstrates their complete lack of critical thinking.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Microsoft Edge, based on Google's Copium engine-

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Copium indeed

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

An excuse to still be right.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

Why? It's because they never arrived at their current behavior by a systematic progression of logical steps. Most of the behaviors we exhibit aren't that way. We just offer a post-hoc explanation/justification. They use edge, so they defend their action with any argument assertion they can think of.

It's also (sort of) because they want to tip the proverbial scale towards their current use. Change takes effort and can be irritating. They have their list of positives about edge (faster, easier, etc.), and they downplay the negatives such as privacy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Damn, how did you get three complete troglodytes in one place?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Off-topic, but I do agree in general that Edge is a solid browser. I use it when I'm at work and really love the vertical tabs and tab groups. I use firefox for personal use and am patiently waiting for the vertical tabs on the stable release (and not just in about:config).

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

Is that the same as the misnomer or fallacy that privacy is dead?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Yeah a very reddit moment

[–] scottmeme 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Privacy also doesn't exist when you have the entire website being indexed

full discussion on spezit

I'm also a firm believer in you don't need to freely give up your data

[–] yonder 4 points 1 day ago

I did not realize "spezit" was "spez" and "reddit" until I reread your commnt lol. I thought was some reddit privacy frontend with the German pronunciation of "z".

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Ultimately, the sentiment isn't completely wrong. Using a different browser isn't going to save you from being tracked. Using one or multiple browser extensions isn't going to save you from being tracked. Using a VPN isn't even going to save you from being tracked.

Accounts are pretty much required to use most sites, and many also require connecting a phone number or other personal details. Privacy is actively discouraged, and attempting to pursue it leaves you with many hardships -- by design I would argue. You buy a product on one site, with no prior search history about it, and suddenly you start getting emails from unrelated sites about similar products. In capitalism, any information about your habits and interests also becomes a commodity. Why shouldn't people dismiss privacy in favor of convenience, in such a system? It seems futile to even try.

And if your government is determined to figure out who you are online, then it will. Don't make the mistake of thinking they don't know what you've been up to, here or otherwise.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I do fall into that way of thinking sometimes and in discussions and such, but even then, i still take steps to maintain a level of privacy. It's for stupid reasons, I'm admittedly not knowledgeable whatsoever on data privacy. (As in, why is it necessary since we already carry a lot of data collection devices with us as we go around that I know most people dont even think about.) But it makes me just feel better, I guess.

Most of my friends have actually moved away from Firefox to more tailored browsers like opera, which i think is much worse in terms of data protection. (again, uninformed. It's just something I've seen thrown around, feel free to correct me if that's wrong.) At times, it really is quite easy to start thinking like the people highlighted in the post. I'm 22, and have a degree in computer science. There was a module on data security, but it was mostly focussed on data leaks and encryption methods rather than the 'philosophy' on why data protection is important. Even in the final year of uni, people were being quite flippant with it.

It's probably just a cultural shift, as more and more companies collect mass amounts of user data, people gradually get more comfortable with the idea I guess. Especially with gen alpha, who are born into a world where it's just a fact that all companies are actively farming your data. To them, it's not something to be concerned about whatsoever. There was never a time in which they had privacy, especially since they are introduced to technology before they can even speak, write, or remember.

What I've put above is mostly just waffle honestly, but I hope it provides something to someone LMAO.

Edit to add stuff: I guess to make the point more obvious, for younger generations it's because privacy just isn't real for them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Hopefully the Trump presidency is a wake up call in the importance of privacy. As we slowly move towards fascism, privacy becomes more important than ever.

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