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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

This argument doesn’t really hold up to polytheistic religions, nor the problem of evil with cultures who expect gods to be evil, nor the argument of poor design to non interventionist religions.

Actually I would have a hard time formulating an argument for polytheistic not interventionist evil pantheon. Maby the canaanite’s had it right the whole time.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

This reminds me of Otep, "Noose and Nail"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Or none

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The Buddha is not a god. Buddhism is nontheistic and shouldn't be included in this meme.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The picture is not of the Buddha. That’s a picture of Budai, who was a Buddhist monk and has a variety of religious traditions and worship associated with him. Fat Buddha =|= the Buddha.

Some varieties of Buddhism are nontheistic, but not all varieties. There’s the “little wheel” versus the “big wheel.” Some varieties of Buddhism have hundreds of gods.

Edit:

I do see someone that looks like “the Buddha” in the background - that is, Siddhartha Gautama.

But the idea that Buddhism is some rational atheist philosophy is very much a western gloss. Friend did a study abroad in Myanmar - the Buddha is so revered that having tattoos/casual iconography is sacrilegious and dangerous. A very popular form of Buddhism is “Pure Land” Buddhism, where the goal is to not necessarily reach nirvana, but to be good enough to get to chill in a nice place with the gods in your next life. Buddhist traditions tend to recognize their gods as trapped in samsara just as much as we are, but again, lay practice is going to treat various Buddhas as Demi-gods.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fat Buddha =|= the Buddha.

And icon to contemplate is very different than a god to worship.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Budai/Hotai is worshipped though. He’s not treated as an “icon to contemplate” - in some traditions he’s even considered a messianic figure (the Maitreya Buddha) himself. That’s why there are statues and shrines.

You are reading a lot of western understandings of religion into practices that are not western. The Alan Watts style of Buddhism is not the style of Buddhism that is practiced by the majority of Buddhists.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

He’s not treated as an “icon to contemplate”

Okay buddy

[–] [email protected] 0 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Have you read a sutra? Can you distinguish Chan Buddhism from Zen Buddhism? Can you identify any of the Buddhist hells?

I’d recommend some of my books from grad school, but this video is a good short overview of the topic.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

My guy, you're only digging yourself deeper

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 minutes ago

Bro, I literally have taken a graduate religious historiography class and I’m citing sources - if you want, later tonight I can give you a ton of more academic sources. Arguing that Buddhism is nontheistic indicates a serious lack of understanding of Buddhism.

[–] AwesomeLowlander 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Trust me, for many Buddhists in Asia he plays the same role.

Source: Grew up as one.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

I grew up Buddhist and I feel like people might think Buddhas are gods but they're more like role models. I hope Buddhists see that.

[–] catsarebadpeople 1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

How very pedantic of you!

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I wouldn't give two shits what other people believe but they keep trying to force the rest of us to live in their lifestyles.

NOPE.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Religious belief informs ethical understanding. And ethics aren't an individual concern. They're social code of conduct.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Religious belief informs ethical understanding.

one would hope

And ethics aren’t an individual concern. They’re social code of conduct.

seems like wishful thinking

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's sociological. Traditions and taboos aren't unique to religion. Communities form them as a means of building trust between members.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago

and yet, the pedos in the news so often skew ecclesiastical or conservative.

so what's that ethical understanding again?

what a gigantic load of horse shit. unless you're asserting the ethics of the church is focused on buggering children, which I would have to concede is amply endorsed by the evidence so far.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

I believe in 🗿.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

With local gods I think it's more like a million.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thank you the local god I worship is acknowledged to be fake, but also too cool to care about not existing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Fake gods?

Impossible.

BTW my country of birth decided to trade Thor, Oden and Freja against a meak jesus guy... Worst idea ever. I mean who is going to defend against the ice giants now?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

*Yours are

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

There seems to be a large religious figure missing from this image... I wonder why that is?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

He's there, but he's invisible!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Muhammad was a prophet, not a god figure. Jesus is said to be both.

Edit: I guess, by this logic, the Buddha probably shouldn't be there maybe.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

🗿

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