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[–] [email protected] 240 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

It's such an alien thought process that I don't even know where I would begin with discussing politics with such a person.

[–] [email protected] 160 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is the voter Kamala was supposed to sway with “better messaging”.

[–] [email protected] 105 points 1 week ago (5 children)

No, this is the voter she pissed off Dem voters for...

It didn't work out well if you've already forgotten.

If someone says trump is Hitler but they voted for him anyways...

Then he was already going to vote for trump, and chasing his vote just led to losing traditional Dem voters with literally no gain.

Moving to the right is political suicide, yet we keep doing it because that's how you max donations. And that's all the people running the party care about.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 week ago (2 children)

No, this is the voter she pissed off Dem voters for…

Not sure why you said "no", since you're making the same point I was. This is who the party asked her to sway, and now the party is blaming her for not working hard enough to win the votes of complete fucking morons.

I could have told you that ignoring these morons and running a campaign focused on the working class, social justice, and economic fairness would have gone 1000% farther than trying to win over fence-sitters during the most divided election in U.S. history. Not sure why the Democrats ignored this, I assume they have at least one competent advisor that said this...

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[–] [email protected] 158 points 1 week ago (4 children)

"the greatest argument against democracy is a conversation with the average voter"

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Marx grasped this essence of capitalist democracy splendidly when, in analyzing the experience of the Commune, he said that the oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class shall represent and repress them in parliament!

https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/staterev/ch05.htm

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (7 children)

This is some quote from an ancient Greek right? Socrates, Pericles et cetera?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's one of the many often attributed to Winston Churchill, though to my knowledge there's no actual evidence of him actually saying it and his other writings go against the sentiment. I don't know who actually did say it first

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[–] [email protected] 116 points 1 week ago (14 children)

It's like people really believe America entered WW2 to fight fascism becaus Americans are innately good....

Large amounts of the country said the same shit this guy is. They wanted to either stay out of it or outright join the nazis.

Especially the wealthy. Prescott Bush was believed to be part of the Business Plot that wanted to overthrow the US government in favor of fascism and doing the Axis powers.

They didn't succeed (mostly because of Pearl Harbor) but his son became head of the CIA, VP, and then president. One of his sons also became president, and almost another one.

If we don't remember what history was really like, we're doomed to keep being surprised when the same shit keeps happening.

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[–] Imgonnatrythis 107 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Tell me you are a racist piece of shit without telling me you are a racist piece of shit.

I really believe that most Americans are dumb enough to be racist and just smart enough to know they shouldn't say it. I can't help but read all this apologism for Trump as thinly veiled, "I know he's a weird guy, but thank God someone is finally going to do something about all the people that look different than me".

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 week ago

Saying "I voted for Trump" is saying "I'm a racist piece of shit". We can retire the "without saying" joke in this context.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also, misogynist. "I sont agree with his dictatorial views, but at least he's got a dick!"

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[–] [email protected] 96 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As a German, this the insane things our parents, grandparents and institutions warned us about. People begrudgingly accepted their lead in the hopes that "although it's an authoritarian, maybe he will take care of our goals". What followed was the cruelty of 1939 to 1945 and no one deserves to live through that, not even the idiots that got us in this mess.

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 week ago

Dictators: famous for ending wars. We'll never learn how many wars could have been prevented if only all countries had authoritarian leaders, too bad it's never happened before.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 week ago (8 children)

In times past, I was fascinated by Hitler and WW2. It was a lifelong obsession that I had since childhood. But ever since the Trump era started it started to wane due to the fact that WW2 and Hitler just didn't seem so distant anymore... the world felt like a repeat of what was happening in those days and looking up facts felt, in part, like learning more to understand what is happening now instead of about history.

But if there is something that I need to point out is that Hitler was a SHIT leader. Germans and Germany ever since the Kaiser era were portrayed as hyperefficient and militaristic, and people then claim the Nazis were the same. They weren't. Nazi bureaucracy was bullshit and most of their economic growth was based on plunder (initially from German Jews and other marginalized groups and later from other countries) and almost purely military build up. Germany actually lagged behind in technological build-up to most countries, despite the stereotypes of the Wunderwaffen of WW2 (Fritz-X bomb, the ME-262, etc), and industrially as any technology that didn't have a direct military benefit was discarded. They didn't even have any proper anti-biotics during the war!

Even agriculture was fucked by the Germans. Despite the romanticization of the German peasantry and the countryside by the Nazis, they could not sustain their population at all. Most German food was imported, and they were preparing their population for harsh wartime rationing even before the war started. They fed their population almost entirely on stolen food from Poland, France, the Netherlands, and Ukraine. Also by killing a lot of people in the death camps they saved on food that way as well.

People stereotype communist countries as having no food when they don't realize that fascist nations just can't feed their own folk. Nazi Germany wasn't alone in having serious food problems. Imperial Japan couldn't feed its own population and would have had widespread hunger if they didn't start plundering China during the war.

Hitler lead Germans and Germany into death and destruction and misery and mayhem. He did nothing good for Germany. None at all. Even towards the end of the war he would have been OK with the German people being genocided since if they were defeated by the barbarian orc-like Soviets and the mongrel Americans they were not the master race he thought they were and they deserved to die. There is a reason why he is remembered as one of the world's greatest monsters.

[–] prettybunnys 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

He did nothing good for Germany.

He did kill Hitler tho.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I see where you're coming from. Perhaps not as obsessed, but I always had a historical interest in the era until it became an alarming parallel to present day news. Most people do not know much about what went down in the pre-war period. They just have knee-jerk reactions to it. "Traditional values" were trending at the time, Nazism was marketed as the modern, cool choice. Education, administration and even scouting and chess clubs were Nazified at the time. I see it with the freaking MAGA hat everywhere nowadays. I just see it and say, fuck this is some Nazi Germany shit. To me now there are two kinds of people, those who see it, and those who don't. People are so precious thinking that Germans went nuts with the mass murder shit and elected this guy, but themselves have been on the exact same track as Nazi Germany for years: idolizing a dangerous man without ever questioning him. Soon they will have no excuse either, only collective guilt. Some of us won't be here to see it though, for one reason or another. I have pointed this out in my other comment: once fascists get hold of the state apparatus, there is no horror we can put past them.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because Hitler is famous for avoiding global armed conflict.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 week ago (7 children)

“I voted for the guy that I think is like Hitler to end conflicts and keep us out of wars.”

Did he not read the part where Hitler genocided Jews, Europeans, and the disabled?

Did he not read the part in history where Hitler caused a war so large that it wiped out entire European families, literally tens of millions of Europeans?

The white working class in this country is going to get everything they voted for. I hope Trump floods their neighborhoods with immigrants, LEGALLY.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Ya know.... if I thought someone was literally Hitler, the last thing I'm gonna fucking do is help them literally have control of... everything.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Everyone keeps looking for answers to why trump won. I keep coming back to media directed stupidity

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

And social media feeds.

How much you wanna bet this guy scrolls facebook a ton? Or listens to railing radio/podcasts on drives? This opinion didn't spawn from a vacuum.

They should be following up and asking him where he got those ideas.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 week ago

This is what happens when you systematically dismantle the public education system.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 week ago (1 children)

War is Peace

Freedom is Slavery

Ignorance is Strength

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I'm beginning to see why he is a former construction worker.

This guy was fired for being obviously mentally unstable.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh, far from it. This is very much the norm in any construction sector. Everyone is dumb as absolute fuck.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Historical fact: In the distant past, guys like this belonged to a Union, and the union told them how to vote.

The union was led by ruthless people whose power was entirely dependent on the support of the union.

The union leaders kept their people happy by negotiating better prices for their labor, and the happy people did what the leaders said. Their tribe was the union, and the tribe stuck together.

At some point the owner class realized it was easy to redefine what happiness meant for idiots: Lying. A lot. Tricking absolute idiots is easy, so they started whittling away at unions with promises of prosperity a union leader could never fulfil, until we get to today where unions and union membership is lower than it's ever been.

And idiots like that still vote for who their handler tells them to, only their handler now has zero investment in keeping them happy. Lying to them is sufficient as long as the rest of the tribe reinforces the lies. The tribe is now everyone too stupid to not vote for Hitler, and the tribe sticks together.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I wonder who Trump voted for.

Oh that's right, he's a convicted felon. That would be voter fraud.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Voter turnout among Democrats this year was 10 million lower than in 2020, while Republican turnout barely changed. Trump won the popular vote by about 3.5 million. TBF it's unknown how many Democrats didn't vote because they were purged off voter rolls, and how many simply refused to participate because Harris didn't satisfy their moral purity standards. But based on the consistent failure by Republicans to win their election restricting lawsuits, my strong guess is that it's those 10 million fuckheads who did this to us. Zero tolerance doesn't work, folks, You don't walk barefoot across broken glass because you didn't like the choices of shoes.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As far as, fascism is concerned, peace is certain ruin The preservation of international peace renders it possible for the enslaved masses in the fascist countries to gather their forces together and to prepare for the overthrow of the hated fascist dictatorship, and to enable the international proletariat to win time for the establishment of unity tit its ranks, to rally together the supporters of peace, and to establish an insurmountable barrier against the outbreak of war.

https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/dimitrov/works/1937/war.htm

no war with Peoples Republic of China, no war with Russia, no war with Iran, no war with Venezuela, no war with Cuba, no war with the Democratic Republic of Korea

No war but class war

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (42 children)

I mean, yeah, this guy is wrong for thinking Trump will keep us out of wars, and the idea that you would vote for someone you think it like Hitler to stop new wars is both contradictory and morally reprehensible. But I've heard this take before (well, except the Hitler part, that's bat-shit insane) and it might be worth reflecting why a lot of the electorate no longer sees the Democratic party as the anti-war party. That's a big shift that's occurred in my lifetime, and it's worth examining.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

Same guy? I don’t know where this particular ideologue lives, but it would hardly be the first (second, third, fourth…) time newspapers “accidentally” presented career conservatives as a “randomly selected” voter.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Can't we convince MAGA that trump has been replaced by the deep state or something that makes them fight for a good cause for once?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

No, because Dems are stuck on a high horse and burned 1 billion campaigning like its the 1950s. Fff, they could have won the election spending a tenth of that on bots and paying off influencers.

We absolutely need money for a shameless 'oppositional' propaganda apparatus.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

Says a person who thinks they’ll never see the front line, the soup line, or the inside of a concentration camp.

[–] jaemo 15 points 1 week ago

Done went from being the guy we'd kill if we had a time machine to the guy we voted for in less than a decade. Pretty impressive trick.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot...I call BS on Wolfson's reasoning. The bastard is most likely a neo-Nazi shitbag and knew exactly what he wants out Putin's Sock Puppet.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Leopards ate my face

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, cuz the President can just come down there and wave some magic pixie dust around like a goddamn job fairy and fix things up 🙄

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

??? They do it from the oval office desk. The more / less US manufacturing lever is in between the egg price and gas price lever.

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