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[–] [email protected] 209 points 7 months ago (6 children)

When preserving culture is criminal, or punishable, ya might want to reevaluate your laws

In the meantime, people are gonna do it anyway 'cause why ask permission to back up and preserve your own stuff? And when the law finally catches up, some will be grateful to those that did so despite the earlier wrongful laws that tried to discourage them.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 7 months ago (1 children)

'cause why ask permission to back up and preserve your own stuff?

Copy that floppy!

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This is great and advisable.

But what about online only games that can be nuked whenever the publisher feels like it?

https://www.stopkillinggames.com/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Probably depends on the game. I'm pretty sure more popular games or games with a sizable amount of dedicated fans, like the TF2 community, have probably already found a way to make their own private servers or at least are working on it.

[–] DannyBoy 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

TF2 has official private server support, from day 1 I think.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Had absolutely no idea. Good to know.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I mean, many of us are trying. It's fuckin' hard tho when your opposition has billions of dollars and politicians in their back-pocket and our side's greatest asset is the voice of Gordon Freeman from Ross's Game Dungeon presents Freeman's Mind.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

Video games are probably thought of more as "tech" rather than "culture." And obsolescence is a part of tech.

I don't agree with it, but that is what I think their view on it is.

[–] skulbuny 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

we also should be supporting open source games---if it's open source, it's preservable! these people are already essentially giving up any revenue just to make something for someone else, we should be lifting them up, too!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

When preserving culture is criminal, or punishable, ya might want to reevaluate your laws

Or, don’t treat it like culture but slop to be consumed and discarded. If law is not there, put pressure on publishers to release games under licensing that allows preservation after predetermined amount of time. Maybe make slop ineligible for game awards and remove it from review aggregators. There are ways I’m sure.

…Who am I kidding, nobody is going to do because it would require too much cooperation and people are selfish.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 7 months ago (3 children)

typical. a law meant to help the little guy completely abused and perverted by corporations.

gross

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Are you referring to the DMCA? That was never to help the little guy.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago (1 children)

no i should have specified. i meant the very idea and instantiation of 'copyright' itself

https://www.copyright.gov/title17/

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Ah, I see. Yep, the Statute of Anne broke up the Shakespearean monopolies and after that brief high point, it was all downhill.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

The DMCA was never about protecting the little guy.

[–] skulbuny 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

copyright and all of intellectual property was meant to "promote the progress of science and useful arts"---it has since eroded it and held it up for ownership by capitalists public domain was originally 14 years after publication. 14 years ago was 2010---imagine if everything before 2010 was in the public domain. All video games. All movies. All books, songs, etc. How much of our culture could be preserved? Compare that to now. How much of what you imagined is owned by a corporation? Managed by shareholders? Has the commons been fostered, or has it been divided into fiefdoms?

[–] [email protected] 42 points 7 months ago (2 children)

gee thanks, glad I get fair representation on the laws in the 'land of the free'

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Only if you match whoever the actual electors pick as president. Then yes.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Book = story

Movie = video story

Game = interactive story

The fuck, fellas?!

[–] [email protected] 36 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

We'll just continue to do it anyway.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago

the Entertainment Software Association (ESA) which claimed preservation supporters like the VGHF "[did] not propose a clear requirement to know who the users are or why they want to access a game." Likewise, it suggested those lack of requirements meant supporters aimed to "reserve almost complete discretion in how they would provide access to preserve[d] games."

Stingy. You fucks don't make money with it anymore.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

https://help.copyright.gov/contact/s/contact-form

You should also contact your local representatives across the federal government.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

Fuck isn't this what the Internet archive relied on???

[–] mindbleach 1 points 7 months ago

Repeal the DMCA.

No replacement.