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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

All young Earth creationist should be exiled to a remote desert island to die

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

There's just no way that they could ever be anything but a drain to society

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Should we start building a big wooden boat for them?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 hours ago

Engagement bait.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (3 children)

this argument isn't going to work on someone who believes god created said lead... and also, pretty sure not all lead was created from nuclear decay.

i get dunk on people feels satisfying, but this is just bad science communication through and through

[–] [email protected] 2 points 59 minutes ago

Also, the half life is when half of it decays. Some of it is constantly decaying. We don't need to wait for the half life to see any of it. The ratios would be totally off if there was enough of it to get the amount of lead we have right now, but some would exist. When the math is that complex, it's not going to change anyone's mind who believes what a magic book (written by regular humans) says. Nothing will, be if you want a chance it has to be something simple and obvious.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 hours ago

I had a conversation with a woman who strongly believed God put the dinosaur bones there to test our faith.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Some lead might have been created from supernova fusion, probably. I'm not actually sure if it's the right isotope or if lead even has radioactive isotopes that we know of

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 hours ago

Anything can be radioactive if you add enough neutrons

[–] [email protected] 53 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

unfortunately i don’t believe in uranium or numbers higher than 200, so this argument doesn’t work on me

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

"Whatever! Pssshhh!"

[–] [email protected] 73 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (12 children)

Technically this could all be true even if the universe were created 4000 years ago. As somebody says in Robert Heinlein's novel Job: A Comedy of Justice, "Yes, the universe is billions of years old, but it was created 4000 years ago. It was created old." (approximate quote from memory)

I absolutely agree with science, but strictly speaking we can't know for sure the universe isn't the creation of some superbeing operating outside of it - or it could even be a simulation.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

We can't prove that the world we live in wasn't created last Thursday, with our memories, the growth rings in trees, and so on created by a (near) omnipotent trickster to deceive us. But science and rationality give us tools for determining what's worth taking seriously, and sorting out the reasonable, but unconfirmed, claims from the unverifiable hogwash.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

What a tricky god to even implant memories of me imagining all of creation happening only a few seconds ago every time I read about this particular anecdote in the false past.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

Pffff. Look at this conspiracy bullshit.

Everyone knows that the universe will actually be created tomorrow. What you are experiencing now is a flashback from tomorrow of what you did yesterday. Prove me wrong.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You believe in existence? Please.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

I don't yet, but tomorrow is the day for sure.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago

Actually the universe was created on Jan 1st 1970. That's why computers sometimes have errors with pre-1970 dates, it's the universal simulation glitching due to the high clock rate of computers compared to the universe's. Anyone who claims to have been born before 1970/01/01 is a simulation that's lying to you, and anyone born after is real, hence why now that its more player characters than NPCs things are going off the rails politically and socially!

[–] can 14 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 hours ago

We can't know anything with 100% certainty. We can always imagine some razzle-dazzle, imagined scenario to counter the rational explanation if we like.

The point of the scientific method and logical reasoning is to pick the explanation with the most evidence.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

ALLEGEDLY .

[–] [email protected] 53 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, this is broken because all lead did not have to come from polonium, that's how half-lives work.

It's still 100% bullshit in every way, someone just needs to have chatgpt4 sort out the current mass fraction to explain why, I'm way too lazy to argue against insanity.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

https://wwwrcamnl.wr.usgs.gov/isoig/period/pb_iig.html

Lead-204 is the only isotope that doesn't derive from radioactive decay, and it represents only 1.4% of the lead on earth.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago

In the begining, was uranium, and the uranium was not stable?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

"God made the world with lead in it"

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 8 hours ago (8 children)

I assume someone saying this is a creationist and can just say god created Earth already with the lead in it. Therefore it is a pointless discussion.

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