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[–] [email protected] 67 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (4 children)

Also this doesn’t say anything about the Earth.

Plus you can give a liberal reading of the bible to be:

  1. god created the heaven and the earth. God created the heavenly bodies.
  2. God created the sky - earths atmosphere and climate
  3. God separates oceans - creates continental forms, and plant based life
  4. God creates the moon and sun and stars. This one seems out of order to me… maybe just the earth and solar system stabilize. I don’t know how plants exist without the sun, so maybe it’s microbes or something.
  5. God creates birds and sea creatures. Maybe birds are dinosaurs.
  6. God creates modern land animals, then creates man and woman. That makes sense, mankind is certainly new with only a few hundred thousand years of records before civilization starts.

That doesn’t have to imply the earth is 4000 years old. Even the original wording could be read as eon instead of day.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

The Bible is a couple thousand chapters long. The creation story is the first two chapters. It's pretty obviously only attempting to establish that God created the universe in some ambiguous way and move on with the story. That doesn't stop people from inferring all sorts of things from what is essentially a poem.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 weeks ago

It's literally a poem in the original language.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

Even the original wording could be read as eon instead of day.

Most people don't know that the Hebrew word "yom" (day) can be and is used to denote wildly different lengths of time.

If anyone is interested you can read a fine destruction of the stupid "Young Earth" argument at the link I provided.

The "Young Earth" people, both Christian and Jew, are trying to shoe horn something into the Bible that doesn't fit and doesn't need to exist. It's nothing more than a desperate attempt to hold onto an old, wrong headed, and man-made theory.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Thanks for that

I don’t see why God must be incompatible with evolution or the Big Bang or really any of science. God created us to be clever, surely that includes using logic and science to learn about the world.

Personally I’m agnostic and I try not to judge people. I do judge people who dismiss science and decide faith alone is better.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago

God created us to be clever, surely that includes using logic and science to learn about the world.

The argument can be made that since God created humanity in their image that we're all just fledgling gods with the big difference being our lack of immortality. We're just not long lived enough as individuals to reach God's level of power and insight. We are who God created us to be, logic and science included so If we don't kill ourselves off we may eventually reach a collective godhood, or something akin to it, as a species.

I'm not saying I believe that argument, I'm just pointing out that it's there because it supports your point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago

The excuse that the Hebrew word for day could mean an extremely long period of time doesn't work because plants and trees were created before the Sun and insects (pollinators).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago

I skimmed that link and it's pretty interesting, I'll have to spend more time on it. I definitely liked the part at the end about God being the observer in this context, so what's a day to him.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago

Simple answers for simple minds

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

The original wording can't be read as eon instead of a day because plants and trees could't last for an eon before the sun was created.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago

These are perfect plants that do reverse photosynthesis, make sense now?