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Tankies celebrate terrorism -- "The french deserve a thousand charlie hebdos." (sh.itjust.works)

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Had to go looking, but I found the image this comment is in reaction to.

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It's a cartoon from "Liberation" newspaper in france, and the caption is "Ramadan in Gaza" (published just after the hunanitarian aid blockade and famine crisis started in Gaza, for which Israel is now being accused as an act of genocide)

The woman in a hijab is slapping the hand of an emaciated Gazan chasing after a rat, presumably to catch and eat it, and saying "Not before sunset"

It's a pretty openly Islamophobic joke about Gazan's starving during the month of Ramadan where muslims traditionally fast from sunrise to sunset.

I don't think it should need to be said, but even orthodox Muslims recognize exceptions to fasting during ramadan for starvation and bodily injury.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (6 children)

I see it as a joke on how religious fundamentalists would rather condemn their children to die over their own religious choices (which includes waging religious wars)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (25 children)

Religious fundamentalists do not encourage or instruct fasting during an ongoing famine (not even Islamic ones).

Thinking that they do (and laughing about it) while they starve at the hands of their colonial occupier is honest-to-god nazi-level genocide apologia.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't think it should need to be said, but even orthodox Muslims recognize exceptions to fasting during ramadan for starvation and bodily injury.

Pretty sure that's the joke. It'd be real absurd if a cartoon acted otherwise.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The joke only works if the reader holds the Islamophobic view that Palestinians were starving because their faith forbids them from eating, and not because Israel was starving them by blockading humanitarian aid.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Nah, that's the commentary. If "starving because of religion" is a silly fabrication, what's the reality?

Israel was starving them by blockading humanitarian aid.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Israel wants them dead or gone so they can have their land.

Religion is what they use justify their lack of humanity, but its simple greed and depravity that motivates them to abandon it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Exaclty, it's not a complicated cartoon

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Strange way to evoke Israel's motivation to starve Gazans by pointing to the religion of the victims.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

True! The absurd misdirect almost makes the joke clever, in an underwhelming kind of way. Bit of a groaner really

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

lmao, the thing you're insisting is the subject of this cartoon is literally not present in it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You're right. If you don't see it, it's not real. I can't change that.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Go ahead and point to the character in the cartoon that's meant to represent israel. I'll wait.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't understand why you act like an authority on the author's message if you can't see Israel's presence in the bombed out landscape, the dead under rubble, and the starving men, women, and children.

You said yourself, these are Isreal's crimes against gaza and its people. If you really need labels and caricatures, maybe ben garrison is more your speed.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Even in the most charitable reading, Israel's atrocities are only the backdrop to what is objectively about Arab Muslims and Islamic practices specifically

It isn't israel slapping the hand of a starving Gazan, it's a Muslim woman in Islamic dressings.

You dont have to be the author to see that they've left israel out of this drawing

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Sure, only have to be dishonest or ignorant to disconnect the circumstances from their perpetrators.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

disconnect the circumstances from their perpetrators.

Bud, that is literally what the cartoon is doing, Jesus christ.

Good job for seeing past the cartoon i guess but you're hallucinating commentary that isn't there lmao.

This is like when Musk thought the 'machine' in 'Rage Against the Machine' was supposed to be communism lol

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

That's fine. If you don't understand how Israel affects Gaza, I can't make you.

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