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Social media and individualism result in increased isolation, as it tears apart the social fabric of our societies. For many there is not much interaction beyond the family circle. Even neighbours are just strangers. This ultimately will undoubtedly lead to major disruptions and social unrest. How do we go about breaking that cycle and build real communities again?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

This ultimately will undoubtedly lead to major disruptions and social unrest.

Will it? And if it does, I've seen a lot of unrest being in favour of social progress, which I think is at least part due to marginalized groups being able to find and advocate for each other. Is that a problem?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Jan 6 was not a good one. And I fear there’s another coming with this next election.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

Yeah, I'm predicting more issues next election as well, whoever wins...

Still, I think it's a complicated issue that isn't as simple just "people aren't spending more time with their neighbours".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

Social media hardly tears anything apart at all compared to jobs not paying anything + housing costs being four times more than the value of housing, nazis existing, and people being complete delusional cunts about covid.

Most of social media sucking is from the loudest, dumbest progressives getting offended as loudly as possible over as little as possible for clout, creating an environment where nobody wants to hang out.

Social media does encourage it, plus all the nazi/republican bullshit, which is its own problem. But we shouldn't put our failings as people squarely on social media's shoulders.

At a certain point, nothing good can happen until people decide, for themselves, that they aren't gonna be pressured into being idiots just to fit in.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I don't agree that it will cause social unrest or that it tears apart the social fabric of our society. I don't see a reason to discount interactions of people on the internet, or why internet communities are any less real than in-person communities (even if they have some differences).

You might be interested in this book, Bowling Alone, about the decline of participation in in-person social groups.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Online interactions aren't as rich as in person one, primarily due to the lack of social signals given off by text on a screen. There's little emotion, the tone of the words you read is the tone you read them in. The internet isn't a good enough substitute to replace in person connections. Many people suffered during covid when online interactions were the only choice.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 20 hours ago

Depends on the person, I benefited immensely during COVID when interactions mostly went online. Not everyone interacts the same way, or has the same capacities or preferences. What you're saying may be true for the majority, though.

[–] sbv 4 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

A great example of what this Lemmite said is the fact that they got downvoted without a response.

In a face to face setting, the downvoter would need to interact with the speaker out they'd have to bad-mouth the speaker behind their back. Those are more social actions:

  • Interaction with the speaker would make it easier to find common ground.

  • Badmouthing the speaker would open the downvoter to criticism from other people in the conversation.

[–] otp 3 points 19 hours ago

Or they take their friends and walk away in silence. Then less people listen to the original commenter because why would anyone listen to someone that's talking to nobody who's listening?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago

I can't say that my face-to-face interactions with people on contentious issues have been much better than my online ones, honestly, even when I am making a genuine effort to treat their concerns as reasonable and find common ground.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago

As an introvert, I find the idea of participating in a lot more community events to be exhausting.