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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago

Break up big tech. Regulate monopolies before the cause the second great depression.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Any manager high up enough to be talking on a news channel doesn’t have the degree of interaction with workers to know what they think.

Source: every job I’ve ever had

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

As if they care what the plebes think.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Please leave! If we fire you, we have to pay unemployment, but your replacements will be younger (less costly health problems) and will accept less pay. It's win-win-win for us if you leave of your own accord!"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

I know two senior programmers at Amazon who found new jobs rather than RTO. Within 24 hours after they left they got emails from recruitment identifying them as “boomerang candidates”, offered them a decent raise, and offered full time remote work.

This is nothing more than getting people to quit and hiring back key personnel lost in the process.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

That's right about when I would start slacking off real hard.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

I've heard that this is the new type of layoffs big tech is doing. Massive layoffs that are required lower the stock price but people quitting is not news. So the best strategy to get rid of staff is to create a hostile work environment temporarily until you reach the right amount.

This is a really bad idea for long term health of a company. The people that stay are the ones that will struggle to find new jobs and the people that leave probably already have another job at a competing firm lined up.

It's just straight up dumb but keeps the stock price high and the CEO gets his bonus.

[–] [email protected] 139 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Well yeah, driving people to quit to save money on severance from the impending layoffs is the whole point of forcing them to return to the office

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 days ago

You don't like the anal probe? Just leave!!

(*without any additional pay or severance)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They should really open just an absolute shit load of individual constructive dismissal cases.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Labor boards might notice then though.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

They should really keep a poster about Amazon in their offices permanently.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

I'll just leave this here.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 day ago (12 children)

As an Amazon employee...the man blatantly lied about the figures for those happy to RTO. He probably got them by seeing that ~10% of corporate staff are in the remote advocacy channel, and assumed that everyone else was...happy?

Regardless, Amazon is known as a place that values data above anything else. If you are a fresh grad PM and you're caught fudging or misrepresenting numbers to suit a narrative, guess what happens to you. You are more than likely PIP'd or fired

I'd say that Matt Garman should be fired for lying about the data, but given that Jassy has a habit of lying about figures also, the rot is at the top.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago

This was always the intention.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Oh, permission to leave the plantation, thank you boss sir.

Same old slave owner personalities.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slave_plantation

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

Thanks a lot. Now, whenever I see a quote from one of these types of leadership people, I'm going to hear the quote in a southern slave owner voice like Leonardo Dicaprio in Django.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So in this instance would quiet quitting lead to the desired result? Just doing the most subpar work until they’re forced to fire you with a severance…

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 days ago

Yes. Malicious compliance.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Time to set up effigies on gibbets for totally peaceful protest purposes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

"Days of love"

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They will do whatever they can get away with.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Melian Dialogue: "the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must"

this is why collective action with 21st century employment is important. all of them could sit down. but they won't because of humans constantly failing the prisoner's dilemma.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Would continue to work from home until they fire me.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago

Would continue to sit in office applying for other jobs until they fire me.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago

amazon unhappy with happier employees can leave too

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Well... uhhh... that was Amazon's plan. I thought we were on the same page.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Why is even the writer of the article lying about the reason? Everyone knows this is about real estate value propping up the stock price.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (13 children)

Man, there are people who will argue until they are blue in the face that the purpose is not real estate.

The "only" evidence I can provide is that the values of proximal commercial properties is rapidly losing value because the workforce that provided business to those properties is no longer there. And just because the properties have investments made by the company doesn't mean they own them outright (despite the value tying into their businesses net worth).

Of course they would lie about this. It doesn't benefit the real estate owners and the business to publicly share that investments are losing value because of natural economics. The entire financing industry is based on lies to begin with, can't change that now (/s).

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago

Amazon employees starting their own businesses in 3-2-1...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Paging Tyler durden on this mf

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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