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Enough Musk Spam

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"Whether you hate me, like me or are indifferent, do you want the best car, or do you not want the best car?" [Apartheid Manchild] told audiences at an event in November.

Well, for starters I don't want a car at all. I'd rather use public transit. You know, an actually effective means of reducing emissions.

If I were in the market, yes, I would want the best car. Which is why I'd never buy a Tesla. I'd buy an XPeng or a BYD or the like.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 6 days ago (3 children)

They used fake robots at their latest event. They were secretly controller by humans. Tesla is a scam company.

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[–] Lucidlethargy 34 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I'll never buy one, and it's 66% because of him. The other 34% is the fact Tesla's are shit quality vehicles. Geico literally refuses to insure the cyber cuck. I didn't misspell that.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 6 days ago (8 children)

Friend ran afoul of the Tesla's Drive-By-Wire. She had her car on automatic drive and it was speeding towards the bumper of another vehicle. She slammed on the brakes, but because the system has to switch from automatic to manual, the brakes didn't engage for a critical second. So she ended up jamming her car into the rear end of the vehicle in front of her, and her system recorded the event as "human error", because she was at the wheel when the collision occurred.

Now she's out several grand in repairs that her insurance won't cover, because she failed to let Tesla's autodrive system take responsibility for the collusion by trying to prevent it.

Stories like this are what make me incredibly hesitant to buy a Tesla.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 days ago (3 children)

As someone who owns a Tesla, I can attest this isn't how the brakes work. We'd heard similar rumors to this effect and it was the first thing we tried on the test drive. The brakes are 100% functional 100% of the time, regardless of driving assist.

Even if "full self driving" (quotes intentional, that shit is not fully self driving) did cause an accident, the driver is perfectly capable of avoiding it by braking or taking over steering.

P.s. Fuck Elon Musk

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I hate Tesla as much as the next guy but this sounds very odd.

It's hard to believe that it's possible to sell a car in 2024 that doesn't apply the brakes when you press your foot on the brakes.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago

Because it's probably bullshit. Elon Musk is a colossal problem, so people feel justified in whatever lies come to mind.

  • The Cybertruck has steer by wire BUT NOT BRAKE BY WIRE. No other Tesla has any such system. The brakes in all Teslas are traditional.

  • The question of who pays when you have an accident with autopilot has basically been settled in court: the normal rules of fault apply. If autopilot is at fault, then you're at fault. If you're in control, and you're at fault, then you're at fault.

The idea that an insurance company says, "Oh, we won't cover it because you deactivated autopilot" is outright silly. Ignore the autopilot thing for a second. What happens when you rear-end someone? Your insurance covers it based on your coverage, and your premiums probably go up significantly.

The driver was supposed to be in control, of a vehicle with traditional brakes, and hit a car. If they have coverage, it should be handled just as if autopilot weren't involved at all unless they can prove that Tesla is at fault.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago

Your friend lied to you.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago (7 children)

Drive by wire for 4000 pound missiles should not be legal

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Pretty much up until 2020 I was thinking about a Tesla for my first EV. In '22 the time came for a new car and I went with a different EV because Tesla's quality control has plummeted due to Elon's reckless leadership.

[–] captain_aggravated 8 points 6 days ago

I never liked Teslas for their lack of things like physical volume knobs for the stereo. In my brutal dictatorship, being an executive, manager, engineer or shareholder at a company that manufactures vehicles that installs touch screens at stations for required crewmembers will be punishable by death by coal power plant. "You have to take your eyes off the road to change the radio station." Report to your new job working for the power company. As fuel. Get on the conveyor belt, you'll know when your shift starts.

[–] BigDanishGuy 17 points 6 days ago (19 children)

I'd buy an XPeng or a BYD or the like.

Well, good for you. Personally I'm not buying an internet connected Chinese car. If a car has the option of spying on you, and potentially be used in a hybrid attack, I'd prefer to get a car from a western manufacturer. And not Tesla either, Musk is too unstable and seems to be influenced by the same powers that has Trump's ball in a vise.

My current car is an internet connected EV, but it sure isn't Chinese or a Tesla.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (5 children)

China can spy on me. I feel safer with them having my info than Musk (Or if you really want to get in the weeds, GM or Ford who's happy to share that info with big insurance and law enforcement)

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I wonder how much longer it will be until the board of directors of the various companies he's involved in start a serious revolt and push to get him out of the company?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 days ago

It won't happen. Ever since he got ousted from one of his companies he's structured his companies carefully so he can never be ousted again.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago

I was considering Starlink

Not anymore

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The company became popular because of the popularity of its founder, and will die alongside his reputation.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I'm no Tesla historian, but wasn't it already on the way up before Musk got involved?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago

It tends to be how he makes all his money, tbh. Spot a company on the rise, buy it, profit.

Twitter is an exception. He's bought that just for propaganda because he can't bear the idea of people not paying attention to him.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Very much so, that's why he got involved and bought his way onto the list of founders.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

It’s quite telling that most of the Musk spam I get comes from this community.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

I'd buy an XPeng or a BYD

Why? They are only marginally better than a Tesla. And the software of the dashboard is designed for Chinese people who like UX and UI that look like the Aliexpress or Taobao website. Really unintuitive. Not to mention the post sales service is about as bad as the post sales service on your Huawei phone. I’d rather buy a KIA.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

In reality, the average person doesn't care and doesn't follow news about Elon.

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