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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Projectivy launcher, problem ~~solved~~ adequately duct taped.

Stop connecting your TVs directly to the internet, I don't care what OS it's running. The trend is clear with TV manufacturers, and if your current TV OS doesn't yet inject ads into your streaming box's HDMI stream, why risk it updating? Because that's coming soon enough, and I imagine what it does, an update requiring your TV to have internet connection won't be far behind.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago

Wait for the popups insisting you connect and upgrade before you can use the TV

[–] wander1236 13 points 1 month ago

Projectivy is great. Some bugs here and there, but overall I love the much simpler UI and that I can actually keep my "continue watching" row at the top.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Yeah a alternative launcher is the way to go, I use FL launcher but it's similar. And what I like about android on the TV is that you at least get access to the system via adb and can turn off some things like the default launcher.

[–] CareHare 1 points 1 month ago

This still needs lots of improvement I think. Accidentally removed an app from favourites and now it's nowhere to be found?

I love the look and feel, but it's far from the perfect launcher.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago

I recently bought a projector that I had to trick into not connecting to Wifi by telling it that it was connected to ethernet until it gave up. It will never know the wifi password. It gets an HDMI signal, it shows the HDMI signal, that is its purpose.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (3 children)

are there custom ROMs for TVs like there are for Android phones?

[–] loutr 8 points 1 month ago

LineageOS supports Chromecast with Android TV, haven't tried it myself though.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not on that number. I think there is lineage os for shield tv but I'm not sure about anything else

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

There is and works perfectly!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Only for TV boxes as far as I can tell

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have a TCL ROKU TV which is way too chatty on my network. It sends every single keypress on the remote to their servers (just look into the dev console which is easy enough to see what is logged). I have an adblock dns server on my network

These are just in the last 23 minutes of the hour. As I understand, it's not always doing this if they are not blocked, but when you block them, it starts to panic!

The advantage of doing this is instead of having the ad on the right side of the home menu, I have a nice translucent adbox with nothing in it.. Also, if you look up the secret codes for Roku menus, you can also toggle the ad server they use so sometimes if some slip through, you get some in house tested ones which are sometimes funny. But that's extremely rare for us.

Our next TV will probably be a display or offline only and be a streaming box with custom firmware such as Librelec or something else when the time comes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I can't find the source, but at some point there were reports of a fridge with a WiFi module that would overheat and die if you blocked it at the router.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

I just don't connect my Hisense to the Internet, and let my Nvidia Shield TV do all the "Smart" stuff. πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Don't connect them to the internet. Problem solved.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Nah. Not good enough for me. I thought I would just do that but the thing still has to boot android in order to show you the HDMI input. So it has to constantly suck power like a vampire in order to keep a SoC running, and if it loses power, it has to boot the system again.

I got a cheap TCL and it smells like burning plastic, even when its "off". I suspect it's because of that SoC constantly running.

Next time I'm buying a computer monitor instead of a smart-but-not-connected TV.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Google TV and others require it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

??? I got a Sharp Android TV this year and it just works without connecting

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

These smart tvs just suck. All these integrated systems. Much better off having a seperate device like Roku or Chromecast.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You seem to be under the impression that Roku and Chromecast don't do the exact same things.

There is no good solution because connecting a Pi or something is not as good as modern TVs without an AV1 decoder and it also doesn't have a good remote interface as far as I know.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I went down the Pi 4B with Kodi path. It wasn't very reliable. It was just sometimes when I went to watch something, it just was broken. And I had to go through troubleshooting instead of watching whatever I had turned it on for.

I ended up with an Amazon firestick. Even using Kodi (and smarttube) on that works faster and more reliably.

But then I have the Amazon firestick nosing around in everything I do lol. But I did disconnect my TV from the internet....

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I have an old laptop with Linux Mint hooked to my TV. Firefox with some bookmarks to different streaming services, Freetube with subscriptions, sunshine/moonlight to my gaming PC and emulators to play some retro adventures with my kids. I remote controll it with KDE Connect from my phone. Works great!
I used to fiddle with Kodi on a Raspberry Pi, but the laptop is so simple and easy to set up, I don't see myself going back.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You don't even need a laptop for all of this, you can use your phone.

I stream games with it all the time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

My phone doesn't have HDMI, I don't know how to share the screen with my TV. Plus I have an USB drive with a lot of movies attached to the computer.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You can plug one of these things into the USB-C port of your phone and it basically turns it into a little PC.

Edit: My phone is old and was cheap, so I use an active USB-C to Hdmi converter.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This looks like it costs more than my old laptop, which I saved from becoming e-waste. But I tend to forget we're already living in the future and hubs like this exists. So, thanks for reminding me, I'll look into it. :)

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Just buy a computer monitor

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Monitors are starting to move in this direction. Samsung has a notorious 5k Apple Studio competitor that wants to connect to the Internet and uses the same interface as their Galaxy smartphones.

Standby. Winter is coming for monitors as well.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Do you know any 55 inches computer monitor?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I am still using a dumb LG TV from the before times, and love it. I fear the day that I need to replace it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

There are still dumb TVs, they just cost the same as a smart TV.

[–] Spaceinv8er 1 points 1 month ago

I have an old "smart" Vizio TV from like 2012 (?) that has outlasted 2 new 4k smart TVs. I'll stick with this guy till it pops

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have my Google TV in apps only mode. If Google can still see that I pirate literally everything I watch, and circumvent YouTube ads with it then, well, maybe it sends a message.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I just replaced the dashboard on mine.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

If it was dumb then how would it collect your data and show you ads?

Anyway modern TVs are expensive to produce to they artificially lower the price by making money elsewhere. (Just look at the buttons on your remote)

If you want a dump TV you could look into digital signage. Spoiler: it is $$$$$

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Is there a consensus that Sony tvs are better due to android TV on them?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I do appreciat the fact that sony TVs have native android, the TV menues are also more intuative IMO

Though regardless of the TVs OS, its best to not plug a TV directly into the internet. If you can afford it, get a dedicated android box, fire stick, or any other smart dongle you can afford.

TVs, your kitchen fridge, or even cars now seem to be a privacy nightmare. Updates also dont happen often enough or the manufacture chooses to drop support leaving consumers home networks at risk.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wouldn't the android box, fire stick connecting the internet be doing the same thing that you don't want your smart TV to be doing?

I always always thought getting one of those was to either circumvent the TV OS limitation (Example LG webOS) or to improve user experience on entry level smart TV or older smart TV.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The one upside to a dedicated streaming box is the guaranteed security updates.

Netflix for example may choose to support the app on your fire stick or nvidia shield for a longer time then on a specific TV.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No I specifically bought a Sony for my parents for ease of use and it is one of the worst purchases I have ever made.

I picked this specific model after looking for 3 months.

No where in any of the documentation or reviews did it say by plugging in a HDD I can only record a channel if I'm watching it and not record one channel while watching another which is a total deal breaker.

Also it has developed a fault where it basically shits its self every couple of weeks and the picture pixelates. It needs to be unplugged for a week and plugged back in. I've tried a new power pack but it doesn't really help. The only other thing I could do is get a new main board but can't source one with 6 months of searching eBay.

Do yourself a favour and buy a cheap LG panel and stick a streaming stick in it and never connect it to the internet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

by plugging in a HDD I can only record a channel if I'm watching it and not record one channel while watching another

That actually makes sense if we're talking DVB-[C, S or T] channels received through an internal hardware tuner. A tuner can only tune in on one frequency at once. To record one channel while watching another, it would need to have two internal tuners, which isn't very common and, I'd say, not something to expect unless specifically advertised.

Also it has developed a fault where it basically shits its self every couple of weeks and the picture pixelates. It needs to be unplugged for a week and plugged back in.

Warranty?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Warranty expired

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Mine is fine. But I don't really have experience with any other smart TVs.

I've installed Projectivy launcher since Google mandated 50% of your home screen being an ad, though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I would use a smart tv if it ran entirely on a raspberry pi compute module that I provide running only software I explicitly installed on it (like an intigrated computer only with a raspberry pi).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Anyone know about lineageos tv? It looks cool, but there might be some issues I dont know about not using it yet.