IRC: it’s open source, it’s free, its retro
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How about Guilded?
matrix: unstable overall
"Unstable" is an understatement, and this comes from a girl who uses it all day every day.
Isn't it generally better if you use a smaller instance/host your own? Most of the complaints I've heard have been on the busier instances.
That said, I only use it occasionally to catch up on dev updates.
My current instance has ~160 users, and it's okay. I once used a friend's instance, where I was the 2nd user. It was very bad. That might in part be the fact that it was running Conduwuit though.
I use Steam Chat for playing games with family and friends. It has better audio quality than discord in my opinion, and you can make groups (something like Discord servers) too. It doesn't have all the functionality of servers, but the basic idea is there.
I am actually surprised nobody mentioned it yet Why use some third party application, when you can use the Steam's one.
It's not like the OP is concerned about privacy. They were using discord. They didn't say it has to be open source.
For talking outside of gaming or away from PC, I use signal.
Teamspeak 3 is ancient, but works.
However there is a new version of Teamspeak (TS5) which is much closer to Discord and looks much nicer. You could give that a try
There was a TS4?
There's guilded, have an old guild leader in tech that always tries to get us to be guinea pigs for different voips, and that one isn't terrible if discord isn't available.
Ventrilo, is that even around anymore?
Mumble wasn't too bad,
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waits for matrix fanboys to still chime in
My client shouldn't be bugged when I enter a room with a long history, right? Right?
Couldn't decrypt message
Hey, they're fixing that. Soon. Really. Any day now. For reals!
(That's the #1 thing that makes Matrix utterly unusable for me: if there's more than like, 10 messages, it's a game of is-it-broken-or-is-it-just-crap.)
Tbf, they actually are. Element X and the sliding sync are ready I think. If the server and client both use it, I think you can use it today. Or maybe the whole matrix 2.0 where that's all integrated isn't pushed into main/master yet. Im any case, I read it was ready maybe a few weeks ago.
Element X is still missing a lot of features, "ready" is an exaggeration I feel
No Spaces support in particular is a dealbreaker for me
Agreed. Element X and sliding sync don't support sso yet, so I've been unable to try them :/
Once those are added I'll be excited to give them a shot.
I currently use matrix and element with many bridges as my sole chat interface and it's very slow. So I look forward to speed improvements.
Ahh, good point. I have only been "testing" matrix for a year and haven't enabled sliding sync so haven't bothered using element x yet.
Well then theyre right- one day it might get done. 😄
It will be done the same year when it's finally "year of linux"... Sad, but seems to be the case.
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Matrix is probably the closest to Discord overall. If Element is bugging out on you, it might be worth trying other clients. Nheko worked well when I tried it, for example. Do note that the matrix.org homeserver is sometimes overloaded, so if you're having responsiveness issues, choosing or running a different homeserver will probably clear them right up.
Mumble.info is great for voice. If your text chat needs are pretty basic, it might be a good fit. I don't think it saves message history.
XMPP is a protocol, not an app. If you you saw an interface you didn't like, you could always just use a different client. I don't usually recommend it, since setting it up with all the features people usually expect is a bit complicated and error-prone, but it would probably be fine among a small group of friends if one of them has tech skills. I don't think it offers voice, at least not in any widely-supported way.
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KiwiIRC is a web based IRC client. Does not have voice chat afaik, but since it's IRC it's very lightweight and had a low entry barrier.
I setup a Mattermost server for me and the boys. It’s more slack than discord. But chat, rooms and voice all worked. Push notifications worked on android and Apple. But, I had to admit defeat. No one wants to leave discord because they all have at least 1 friend who won’t leave it.
I tried to self hosted matrix, but it suffered the same feigned interest.
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Jitsi meet is what I use for calls with my friends. You can continue using revolt or matrix or something for the text channels.
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Discord is banned in Turkiye.
Considering the nature of these programs, I think the most important thing to hone in on is: what's popular in Turkiye? Features and functionality don't mean squat if no one's around to enjoy them.
...tad off topic, but this thread is making me miss xFire. That shit was better 10 years ago (maybe more like 15? idk, I'm old) than Discord was at its peak. ...litigated out of existence by Yahoo's frivolous weaponization of our legal system. This is why we can't have nice things.
Edit - Fuck you, Yahoo.
Eh, I'm honestly trying to give Yahoo another shake now that Google is so terrible. That said, Yahoo still sucks to use, and it lost most of the charm that it had in the 90s. And BTW, the xFire suit was around 20 years ago, so you may be older than you want to admit.
the xFire suit was around 20 years ago, so you may be older than you want to admit.
There comes a point where it kinda just blurs together. I'm old enough that when people ask how old I am, I have to stop and think what year it is, and do some quick head math to figure out the answer.
Dang, that hits too close to home for me too. I have kids, and sometimes I forget how old I am because I care far more about how old they are that it just isn't as important to me.
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