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Bids opened Monday for a contract to supply the state Department of Education with 55,000 Bibles. According to the bid documents, vendors must meet certain specifications: Bibles must be the King James Version; must contain the Old and New Testaments; must include copies of the Pledge of Allegiance, Declaration of Independence, U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights; and must be bound in leather or leather-like material.

A salesperson at Mardel Christian & Education searched, and though they carry 2,900 Bibles, none fit the parameters.

But one Bible fits perfectly: Lee Greenwood’s God Bless the U.S.A. Bible, endorsed by former President Donald Trump and commonly referred to as the Trump Bible. They cost $60 each online, with Trump receiving fees for his endorsement.

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[–] [email protected] 179 points 2 months ago

Scam to shovel taxpayer dollars to Trump.

[–] [email protected] 132 points 2 months ago

Specifically created for the grift.

Walters is a piece of shit.

[–] [email protected] 87 points 2 months ago (2 children)

There is no better description of the anti christ than trump.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Shouldn’t Church and State doctrine (or whatever it is called) immediately make all of this illegal?

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 months ago

Yep! That’s why they’re counting on, throwing enough dollars at the conservative judges that they will let this theocratic bullshit stand.

Fuck them and anyone who supports their religion

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's probably purposely designed to create a court case so the Supreme Court can hollow out that principle.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This is the perfect job for the satanic temple.

The bible, complete with all American founders documents : brought to you by satan.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago

I so want them to do this. Big ol baphomet right on the cover, and put the TST tenets on the first page. If they undercut the Trump bible aren't they kind of obligated to go with the cheaper option?

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Bible [...] must include copies of the Pledge of Allegiance, Declaration of Independence, U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights

I'm sorry? Why would people mixed (modern) political text to their religious ones? Aren't people buying bibles suppose to care about their religion?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The goal is to abolish separation between church and state bit by bit.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Pretty sure the goal here is to funnel more money to Trump.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They catered the criteria so only a single company fit the bill

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

By making those requirements they are making sure money is diverted from teacher's paychecks an into Trump's pockers

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Why are they putting bibles in classrooms in the first place? Did they repeal the First Amendment?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Apparently, the State Superintendent gets to decide what gets taught in classrooms, and how it gets taught is left up to individual school districts. But it's fully within his right because no "commentary" is allowed around the Bible, just how important it was to America's history.

Why that requires a physical copy that's leather bound, I have no idea. Nor why the money has to come from the fucking payroll budget.

Oklahoma is ranked 49th in education, yet this is what we're spending money on? Seriously?

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

The first amendment doesn't apply to Christian evangelism.

According to SCOTUS at any rate.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 months ago (6 children)

people still read the KJV?

and like, not as some sort of masochistic snoodery?

[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Some denominations do believe that only the KJV is the correct English translation. Many of those people do not understand what the words actually mean. They interpret the text very narrowly and frequently are told by others what interpretation is correct.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago

They also don't know that King James was gay. And it pleases me to inform them.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Which the whole symbolism of the temple veil being torn when Jesus carked on the cross was meant to mean there was no need for anyone (the clergy) to do that or to intercede.

[–] themoonisacheese 30 points 2 months ago (6 children)

See also: Jesus chasing away salesmen in the temple, because they used god to peddle shit to people.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's public domain so they don't have to pay for the copyright of a modern translation.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

American Standard, Young's Literal Translation, are both out of copyright as well. Both of which are more readable than the KJV and frequently offer more insight into historical and cultural context without... fudging things for political interests....

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

if that doesnt convince you that religion is made up on the spot for conniving convenience, nothing will

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure jeebus had a thing or two to say about marketplaces of thieves and swindlers.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

"It is written, 'My house will be called a house of prayer,' but you are making it a den of robbers." -Matthew 21:13

To be clear, I don't believe in fairy tales, but they clearly don't either.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago

With the 3 million they would save buying the cheaper bibles(something they shouldn't be doing either) they could wash a lot of men's feet. They could be teaching all these students how to fish. That is their job after all.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago (4 children)

For fuck's sake in ten years we're going to hear kids tell us the Constitution was given to us by Jesus.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago

Yep, that’s when you start with the answer you want, then set “general” requirements that only it can meet

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ah, yes, the best thing to do money laundering with: Bibles!

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Who tf wrote those requirements?

It seems pretty clear to me that they intended the Trump Bible to be the only one that fit all the specifications.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Rev 22:18 NET testify to the one who hears the words of the prophecy contained in this book: If anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book

I always object to adding anything to the bible. It is fine to want a printed constitution but it should be a separate book.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Trump, cashing in on licensing. Like the $100K watches, where proceeds don't quite go to funding his campaign. They money goes pretty much directly to his pocket. He loves the poorly educated!

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (3 children)

So... do Catholic Schools have to use this King James Bible?

Because that's going to be fun.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

Public schools i believe

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

you mean to tell me the requirement isn't "be a bible" ???

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

Isn't it ironic that bibles sold to this agency have the documents stating there is separation of church and state included in the book?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

OH WOW! That's such a weird coincidence! Imagine the odds of that! /s

Of course they did. The thing is the way the law is written violates the Constitution by promoting an ideologically-loaded, outdated translation of the Bible used by more socially extreme groups.

  • NRSV(UE) is the gold standard nowadays.
  • Leather cover? Why? What's the point?
  • The Founding Documents to the United States do not belong in a Bible. Not everything has to be tarnished with crass "Patriotic" grift.
  • Just the Bill of Rights? The Amendments to the Constitution are legally part of the Constitution. What are they not included? Is there something in those Amendments they don't feel is appropriate?
  • This Bible has consistent poor reviews on Youtube. A number of Bible collectors, theologians, pastors, etc have panned this book for being cheaply and poorly made. It has poor print quality, it's pages stick together, are thin, and rip easy.

It should be obvious to anyone this is an ideological grift and it is criminal graft too. These criminals need to be thrown in prison for this.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

if legislation was to be passed against this book, would it be called the "bye bible bill"?

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