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"For months, Netanyahu and his government have consistently ignored American counsel as to how to prosecute the war in Gaza against Hamas after the Oct. 7 terror attacks. Biden and his aides were repeatedly frustrated by Israel’s widening war aims within Gaza — with a devastating impact on Palestinian civilians — even at the cost of a deal to free the remaining hostages.

Biden deemed Israel’s response “over the top” and did stop one shipment of American arms to Israel. But even as pressure grew from fellow Democrats to create distance from Netanyahu, Biden’s reflexive instinct was to support Israel despite the swelling humanitarian crisis. As his influence over Netanyahu shrunk, the president’s anger grew. Phone calls between the two men were increasingly turned into shouting matches, according to one of the officials and one other senior official not authorized to discuss private conversations. Biden told confidants that he did not believe his Israeli counterpart wanted a cease-fire deal, arguing that Netanyahu was trying to perpetuate the conflict to save his political future and assist Trump in November’s election, the officials said."

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 18 hours ago

Initially I was convinced Biden had the right intentions, and somehow I still like to believe he does. But his political weakness in this conflict is inexcusable, and will hang as a dark cloud over his legacy.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Biden tried so hard to stop it, he even made sure to keep sending guns to Netanyahu

[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago

But he made an angry phone call! What else can you expect from one of the most powerful officers in the world?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

He's tried (almost) nothing and he's all out of ideas. He's most definitely not even tested the limits of his influence over Israel. He just doesn't want that influence to involve anything more serious than "c'mon bucko!".

[–] [email protected] 18 points 17 hours ago

Yeah, Imagine how different Israeli aggression would be if the flow of American Money and Weapons stopped.

But he doesnt want to do that, because Israel holds some weird fucking power over America.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 14 hours ago

Phone calls between the two men were increasingly turned into shouting matches, according to one of the officials and one other senior official not authorized to discuss private conversations. Biden told confidants that he did not believe his Israeli counterpart wanted a cease-fire deal, arguing that Netanyahu was trying to perpetuate the conflict to save his political future and assist Trump in November’s election, the officials said."

Assuming that this is true and the fact that Biden did absolutely nothing to stop this just goes to show you how weak of a man he is. He's president of the richest country and commander in chief to the most powerful military in human history. If all it takes is political influence from one little colony halfway around the world to lose control of a situation when you can literally play the deck in your favor then you're not a strong leader. You're just spineless.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 17 hours ago

Biden has never attempted to exercise influence over Israel.

[–] gravitas_deficiency 5 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Also, the mental gymnastics are becoming a bit absurd at this point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

It would take Biden exactly I've phonecall to rein in Netanyahu. Israel cannot exist without US military aid and everybody knows that.