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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They have decided to spare themselves and make bunkers. They will retreat while the rest of us burn. Just make sure to block their vaults from the outside before you leave this world.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Their security guards will eventually turn on them though, provided they aren't shock collared.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

They dont realize no good end will come. The only way out of this is solidarity and unity.

[–] iAmTheTot 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It will spare them a lot longer than it will the poor, though.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Per the article:

as the planet warms further, the increase in risk actually falls heaviest on those swimming in money rather than floodwater.

It may not kill, but it's going to be incredibly expensive.

[–] iAmTheTot 11 points 6 days ago

Right, but they are rich, they can afford expensive.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Well hopefully, they deserve it at least just as much, for most of the them more, than the rest of us

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

From a global perspective, the average middle class or even working class American who drives everywhere in an SUV, eats huge portions of meat products at wasteful restaurants, and generally consumes ten times as much as the average person is part of the rich. And yes, we deserve it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

The 1%. But the .1% of that 1% is who is controlling everything.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

It's funny how, with a little adjustment to the title, we have an even clearer truth: not sparing the rich will make climate change easier on the rest of us... 🤷🏽‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

I get the sentiment of the article but I disagree. I live in the Jackson Hole area and I am surrounded by billionaires. They have bought huge ranches and put the surrounding lands in environmental trusts. They have also bought a lot of farmland in the Idaho side of the mountain and also turned it into land trusts. The bottom line is that, thanks to climate change the weather is now milder and by reducing the water demands from farms, the area has plenty of fresh water, even during a drought. When you have the means, you can protect yourself.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

at the end of the day, theres more of us than them, they can horde there wealth and be on the wrong side of the climate wars or not.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Article cited : Global economic impact of weather variability on the rich and the poor https://www.nature.com/articles/s41893-024-01430-7