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[–] [email protected] 105 points 2 months ago (3 children)

These publishers' names are:

Hachette,

Penguin Random House,

Wiley,

and

HarperCollins

Time to never buy any book from them again. I'm moving on to pirating ebooks and audiobooks. Sorry JRR and Christopher Tolkien (may you rest in peace), but I'm not buying any more of your books because they were published by HarperCollins. And I'm also not buying a lot of other books too.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

I really appreciate the sentiment, but sadly: Individual boycots that aren't attached to a concertated campaign sadly don't work. Pirate away, but you can be certain that these publishers don't know that you exist.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I would argue this is actually one of the most effective ways to respond. If enough people do it then the company has to react somehow (by pivoting, etc.). Obviously an organized effort would be better, but the "vote with your money" method isn't anything to ridicule.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Name one instance where that worked when it wasn't connected to a massive public outcry. Do you remember the Call of Duty "boycott"? Ubisoft is still in business, too.

Also, the majority of book buyers don't know or care about this verdict.

Also also: The publishers won't even be able to correlate the "lost" revenue of individual people boycotting with their shitty behavior. It's not "Oh, we sold 1000 less copies of this book than expected, because we fought the archive." It's more: "Our predictions were off by 1000 copies. No idea if that's because of some tangible factor, or just 'noise'."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Encapsulated in that "etc." in my first response is "going out of business". This type of response would be way too difficult to get actual numbers for, but it has worked countless times. Just look at all the businesses that are no longer in business at all, they went out of business because they were no longer earning enough to stay viable.

It doesn't matter if the company connects the loss to a specific action (although it would be nice) since the end result is the same, after enough time.

Lastly, I just don't like the idea of my dollars being used by a company to further an agenda that I don't want to support.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The market of publishing houses is waaaaay too monopolized for that to take an effect. It's like boycotting Amazon.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ah yeah, that is sadly true. Too much lobbying and corruption for this to work the way it's supposed to.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Welcome to (late stage) capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

if enough people do it

And now will you make sure of that? As the other person mentioned, without a campaign, it's futile. Most people won't even hear of this

[–] Corkyskog 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's why after you welcome yourself to the torrent world, you should introduce two others.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

It's like seeding but irl

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Maybe, but I am boycotting all capitalist entities the best I can. If I need something I try to buy used or from worker co-ops or to check it out from a library or pirate it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Unironically: That's really cool of you. :)

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago

To be honest, I don't think the Tolkien Estate needs our patronage.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

And the judge name are: steven menashi, beth robinson, maria araujo kahn.

Time to mail them bag of dick i guess?

[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

the best thing to do is download and torrent to preserve humanity's wealth in knowledge otherwise we risk losing immeasurable treasures to the sands of time

Personal recommendation:
qBittorrent

  • Repo
  • Licensed under: GPL-2.0 and GPL-3.0
[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

licenseless? 🤔
these sorts of things tend to sketch me out but giving a +1 as someone smarter than me will know if this is trustworthy

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I was about to say "of course you can trust it, it's from The Internet Archive", but the ArchiveTeam slogan is "We Are Going To Rescue Your Shit". Now I wonder if they're officially affiliated or not.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago

On the other hand, authors have a right to be compensated in connection with the copying and distribution of their original creations.

No author lose any compensation, only publisher. Publisher not have that right.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago

A sad day for pro-preservation advocates

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

They should move out of US and keep doing it anyway.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

"Just" lost it? I could have sworn I saw this news days ago, but "just" makes me feel like this happened minutes ago

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

To be fair the post was 2 days old when you posted

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Alls fair in love and posting on the internet