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I myself am really on the fence about this.

I hate what Reddit has done, as I was removed as a moderator on my sub. But I much prefer the UI to Lemmy so far. I’m also having a hard time understanding how this all works. I was familiar with Reddit, and it is obviously a way more active community.

But I also used Apollo and hate how they’ve done him so dirty.

Will you guys return if Reddit rights it’s wrongs?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

No. Reddit's enshitification started a long time ago. This is just the catalyst. Corpo-stooges can get bent

[–] timmytbt 3 points 2 years ago

All depends on what subs I’m missing

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It’s hard to imagine a scenario where I go back to Reddit.
I really like FOSS but I’m not a true believer type, and this whole situation just really icked me out on Reddit. I wasn’t even a third-party app person, I mostly used the official app on my iPhone. But before June 12 I deleted it and downloaded Apollo instead. Since June 12 I have barely interacted with it.
I’ve been trying out every alternative since. Kbin, Mastodon, RSS feeds, Tumblr, hell I’ve even been trying out Instagram although I know Meta is arguably worse. Kbin + RSS feeds + Tumblr is almost there, just need a lot more discussion on Kbin.
Tl;dr: really, probably, no.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No. This whole Fediverse feels like Reddit did in the beginning. Real conversations. Real sense of community. No pointless bloat or mindless repetition. I started actually participating because I'm not drowned out with a million ridiculous generic comments minutes after a post. Reddit will undoubtedly continue, but not with me as a part of it.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Not fully - those days are over, even if he gets fired (which sets me to wondering if he has some protection from that in his contract? but likely they could find a way regardless, like install a new position of "CEO overseer" that is above him, depending on the language).

And in its place seems to be a new era of freedom, where the content is divorced somewhat from the interface via federation, or at least Reddit is no longer the singular source of where all the good stuff is (I don't like watching videos - e.g. you can't "search" for stuff like you can text).

I help mod a tiny enthusiast sub over there so as people in it struggle to come to terms with what's going on, I haven't fully left there even now (yet...). Even so, even if Reddit backtracks, I like the idea of not putting everything into the one place anymore, b/c it makes the conditions for what happened too easily repeatable. If he felt that he had even the slightest competition, he would not have felt nearly so free to do what he did - so it falls to us (ALL of us) to not allow that to occur again.

Inside the walled gardens they take "good" care of you... but never forget that then you belong to them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Not planning on returning. Reddit was getting crappy for a long time, particularly with how it responded to advertiser-unfriendly content. Federated social media is a better system, and by a metric of centralization, Reddit always sucked. It is a sad example of how corporations are successfully commercializating every aspect of human existence. I dropped in a couple times after June 11th in RiF, but at this point I feel no desire to open up the app.

Additionally, I've been posting a whole hell of a lot more here than I was on Reddit just a couple weeks prior. It's nice to feel wanted for once.

Lemmy and Kbin are early in their life cycles. I can put up with bugs and growing pains. Because the Fediverse is organized as a decentralized community, if one large group decides to enshittify their instance, we can just move to another instance or defederate from them if they pose a threat to the community. It's going to be very hard to unilaterally kill the whole community like what happened on Reddit and Digg. If it becomes possible in one of the Fediverse applications, we can read the source code, sound the alarm, and fork it or patch it out.

I had to learn how to use Reddit; I will learn how to use the Fediverse too. We'll get through this.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Damn redditors... They ruined reddit!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Friendship ended with Reddit users, now fedverse users are my new best friend(s).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Yes, but only to the more niche subs. I've really missed some of them, lime r/stunfisk or r/mapporncirclejerk. I'll stay away from the mainstream subs; I've had enough of the toxicity.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

No. Reddit has shown it's not what I signed up for. I learn my lession, goodbye reddit

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

If RIF survives or returns, then I will probably go back to reddit occasionally. But I haven't missed it since the blackout, so I will probably only use it for a reference and not a community to comment in.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

I'm not sure. I think I want to stay here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Nope, the wells been poisoned. Even if they did a full 180 and Fired Spez for good measure, they've shown their hand. How long before they do it again? Even if all of this was %100 Spezs idea and everyone else in the company opposed it, could we really trust the replacement to never try this or anything similar again? How long before the next CEO decides to try again? What Reddit as a company has proven is that they can't be trusted, and what we as a community have proved with switching over to Kbin and Lemmy is that we don't need Reddit. We can make the same content and have the same or in some cases better communities and the beauty of doing it on a platform like this? A greedy corporation can't destroy it again. Even if a major instance owner goes rogue, we pick up move to another instance and keep going no need to learn a new site no need to rebuild communities. A simple "I'm moving over to this instance!" And that's it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I deleted my 17 year old account. There's no going back, even if Reddit did backtrack it would be temporary. The enshitification has started and can't be stopped.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Probably worth checking if it stayed deleted. A lot of people are saying their accounts, comments, posts etc got restored.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Thanks! Just checked and it's still gone!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Not me. For me it's half a matter of principle, but I'm also liking the fact that I don't waste as much time doomscrolling

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

If I can’t use Apollo I’m done for anything other than when a Reddit post is a web-search result.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

No. The enshittification will progress regardless. Iβ€˜ve seen this often enough.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Most here will probably not. We have deleted our accounts, where banned or just straight up sold our accounts to scammers.... (definitely not me)

I want to see reddit burn to the ground now. The internet, no, humanity will profit from it going offline forever.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Lemmy will continue to improve and Reddit will flush itself further down the toilet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

No. It's a pain in the butt to migrate from Reddit, but it's a blessing in disguise. The decentralized approach is much better and more future proof against bad actors. Having 1 site (or person) holdng all the cards is not something that should appeal to anyone.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's definitely a wait and see situation. My Reddit account is gone, so if Lemmy continues to grow I see no reason why I'd go back. If Lemmy dies, then obviously I wouldn't have anywhere else to go.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I also deleted my main accounts. I'm not going back. I don't care how much back peddling reddit do. I'm gone and here is my new home.

[–] weirdo_from_space 2 points 2 years ago

Nope, being an open source and privacy zealot I wanted to switch to Lemmy well before anyone cared about it. But I deleted my account because it had like twenty active people on it at most. Now that it's gaining users I'm definitely staying. I wasn't very active on Reddit for quite a while anyway, discussion grew repetitive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm on the fence because, like it or not, reddit is still a useful resource. At least, for now, it is.

I used Apollo. This situation opened my eyes. It's time to find a new place to call home, so to speak.

It will take a minute to learn Lemmy. I'm always into exploring a new site, tho!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Not me. reddit has been getting shittier and shittier for years, now I'm finally rid of it. It's like getting out of an abusive relationship lol.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

No, current reddit management has shown their true colors.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

If Kbin and Lemmy keep being this active I'm sticking around here. I'm really enjoying it at this level. More so than Reddit. But if this place dies AND Reddit is less scummy for a while, I might go back.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I'd probably go to my hobby subreddits and ignore /all

And then i'd also check the fediverse's site to see if they have anything different.

I'd imagine the content would grow more and more over time until either things went back to the way they were or reddit no longer had anything worth visiting for.

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