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[–] [email protected] 134 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Honestly surprised there are no ads yet. I thought that was the whole point of the website...

[–] [email protected] 144 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

They need to make it nice first, to reel people in. Once they are in and invested, that's when ads start.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

It's a classic (enshittification tactic)

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well that sounds enshitty.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

wait till you see the -ification.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

that's when they start filtering out the genuine content and show you mostly promoted stuff

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yep. that's the classic shitty business model

  • Make a site that's attractive to use for a lot of people

  • Once you have enough people, lock in the users with network effect, walled garden, etc

  • Use the users to draw in businesses

  • Lock in the businesses and squeeze them for profit.

  • Squeeze users and businesses for money, abandon any maintenance and improvement on the site except for monetization.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago

It's the 3 D's.

  1. Develop the product
  2. Draw people in
  3. Dump a nice steamy log on the whole thing
[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago

They have to build social inertia first. This is something Facebook figured out a long time ago and is well-documented. They were begging for money from investors to keep the site running and Zuck refused to run ads because the site was still growing like crazy.

It might be years yet before they start running ads but rest assured they will eventually.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You don't raise temperature while the frog is in the pond.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I don't understand this metaphor. Is it about frog breeding for later eating? Why else would you want to heat your pond, irrespective of the frog. And why is there a greater incentive to heat the pond when there's no frog, and vice versa? So many questions!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

I interpreted it as you don't heat the pot while the frog is still in the pond. You only apply heat slowly once the front is already in the pot.

Don't load up the ads until the users are already on Threads. Wait until they are active on Threads, then crank up the ads when it's more difficult for the users to leave.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

There was an experiment once where it was determined that a frog with it's brain removed wouldn't jump out of slowly heated water but would reflexively jump if placed into already hot water, leading to a myth that a frog won't leave boiling water if heated gradually enough.

Idioms around frog boiling generally means to make changes slowly and gradually enough that there is minimal reaction from affected parties.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency 80 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

And this is why it’s not a good idea to federate with Threads.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

On the contrary, that's how you get an ad-free access to Threads content.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Interesting that you think that I may be interested in Threads content.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

Interesting that you think that I may be interested in Threads content.

I'm not interested in what content you are interested in. You (Edit: Not even you, gravitas_deficiency. Why even interject as if you were the person I replied to?) made a comment regarding blocking Threads content for everyone. Let everyone decide for themselves which accounts to follow, don't promote not to federate at all just because you personally don't want to follow accounts there. Just don't click the follow button, duh.

[–] conciselyverbose 16 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Go to some junk instance that's willing to federate if you want.

Federating with Threads makes an instance unacceptable as far as most of us are concerned. Their mere existence is malignant.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

9/10 of the most followed accounts on Fedi are on Threads, so you may not, but clearly many many people do.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

There are myriad reasons not to federate with Threads.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)
[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (9 children)

bold of you to assume that ads won't just be disguised as regular posts (and therefore federate)

Edit: after reading the article I heavily suspect ads will federate. As is they are just specially marked posts so I see no reason to think they won't federate.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

My instance is defederated from threads. At the time I mildly disagreed with that decision. Federated ads would vindicate that decision. I don't need threads content that badly.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

That's why they have stealth enshittification techniques to disguise them.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 weeks ago

Tomorrow.

That’s when.

Stop using meta services.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't worry, Threads Pro will have you covered for an ad reduction for 3.99/mo.! And Threads Pro Plus for 5.99/mo. will get rid of them all by 2030!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Your prices are optimistically low. They’ll probably be double that and lock features behind the more expensive plan.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 weeks ago

‘no immediate timeline’ toward monetization

Soo, starting tomorrow

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 weeks ago

We know what enshittification looks like now. Just because you restart it doesn’t mean it’s not obvious where it ends up.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I don't get why anyone even uses it. There are other better options that aren't run by Facebook.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

It's an awareness thing. Everyone uses it because everyone else uses it, because it's the main one people know about, because Meta has unlimited money to market it and scale it, which are exorbitantly expensive.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Most people are some combination of lazy, uninformed, stressed, and stupid. Can't think long term, just trying to get to tomorrow.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Not complicated.

  1. The value of any social network is its' users more than anything. They'll use it in spite of it being super shitty if the people they want to follow are on it.

  2. Threads basically created "one-click account creation" with Instagram so the onboarding was seamless.

  3. They capitalized on the Muskification of Twitter.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago

Lmao, called it

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Tried Threads briefly. It’s full of the same people who comment on or create Facebook reels. Insta-political trolling, deliberately wrong info just to get people to comment and correct it, “I’m stupidly out of the loop on this ridiculously popular topic, can someone tell me why [thing] is?” Just to get every know-it-all to reply. Like every low-effort post on Reddit ever.

Couple that with the inability to sort, and the inability for notifications to take you to the post you were having a discussion on, and I gave up after about 3-4 days.

The platform sucks and so do the participants.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

I have tried Threads, and I really can't recall when was the last time I wasn't impressed at all by something.

This doesn't help.the situation at all.

Hell, Musk's Twitter is a better option to explore than Threads.

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