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CHICAGO — A Kamala Harris administration will not cut or condition US security assistance to Israel, her former aide says during a panel on the sidelines of the Democratic National Convention.

Jewish Democratic Council of America CEO Halie Soifer, who previously served as Harris’s national security adviser in the Senate, notes that the Biden-Harris administration has approved more aid to Israel in the past six months — $15 billion — than any other administration ever.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Won't cut it because every politician needs those fat, fat AIPAC dollars, and won't condition it because they'd laugh in our face, do it anyway, and then we'd have to do something and we still want those fat, fat AIPAC dollars.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/aipac-targets-progressives-100-million-1234979821/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They literally couldn't do it without our assistance. They'd run out of bombs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No, they wouldn't. They have their own resources and $310 billion dollars worth of our support over the years.

Plus, what they're doing now? That's bullets not bombs and bullets are cheap.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/08/28/west-bank-spike-israeli-killings-palestinian-children

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They're still bombing Gaza into gravel and using bombs so fast that they need constant resupply. The bombs would run out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No, they wouldn't, because Israel doesn't need OUR bombs.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes they do! They don't have enough ability to make bombs fast enough to keep up their current pace of bombing. They'd have to slow down drastically.

Also? If the US stopped supplying Israel, US allies would follow suit.

Also also? You're half right, stopping the supply of bombs isn't enough. We should confiscate all military aid we've already given them, and if they refuse, destroy it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They have $310 billion in US support plus their own money, getting more bombs is not an issue here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Money can't just become bombs. There needs to be enough industrial capacity to actually make the bombs, and they need the US for that because our economy is based mostly on war. They can't just go on Amazon and buy bombs lol

But again, I am fully in favor of confiscating or destroying all of the bombs and jets and guns we already have them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

You have no idea how easy it is to get bombs if you have money.

The US is the biggest arms dealer in the world, but they aren't the only one.

Oh, hey, lookie who made the list. But you think Russia, China, or the C.R. are going to turn down Israeli money?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Russia is a little busy right now.

And if you add all of Europe and Israel together it still comes out under the US alone. The US is not just the biggest arms dealer, once you take Russia out of the equation it's the biggest by a long shot. Also? The UK, France, Italy, etc would pull out the instant the US did. Germany is the only one on the list I could see continuing arming Israel no matter what.

They'd have to slow down. More importantly, they'd have to worry about their strength in comparison to their rivals in the Middle East. Without the endless spigot of bombs from the US the prospect of a war with Iran would look at lot scarier.