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#StopKillingGames Update: Germany becomes 4th county to hit threshold (feddit.org)
submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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This is your somewhat regularly scheduled Stop Killing Games update.

Stop Killing Games is an European Citizens Initiative aiming to keep games playable even after their developers and publishers have stopped supporting it.

Germany has hit the threshold sometime yesterday evening. France has also started to catch up. They are still below 50% but there growth over the last couple of days has been the biggest. Netherlands and Denmark are still in the low 90s.

The milestone comes on the eve of this years Gamescom in Cologne, Germany which is set to kick off today. SKG is not going to have an official presence there. (I've checked with the organisers) But if you are attending and want to help spread the word I'm happy to share official marketing material, either in the form of flyers or the files for flyers, so you can print your own. They come in both German and English. If you want some, send me a DM.

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Love the momentum of this initiative, hopefully it reaches success!

FYI, there's also the Tax the rich initiative available, which is ending in October this year.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 months ago (20 children)

Personally i'm a bit sad that video games get more traction than fixing wealth inequalities.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago

I guess one seems more achievable.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We gotta spread the word. It still seems very achievable if enough people become aware of it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Which one ? Saving video game ? Sure, tax-the-rich have less than a month, less votes than this petition.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Anyone who signed the one should be signing the other as well. It’s not that you can sign only one of them.

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[–] CancerMancer 5 points 2 months ago

This is the first time I even see that initiative and I'm in several leftist spaces. Grassroots advocacy is tough man

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It’s simple, I see a stop killing games post and I upvote.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago

You know, I'm something of a "I'm doing my part" guy myself.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I was really sure I deleted my reddit account

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I can't sign but still will upvote babyyyy. Can't thank the EU enough for all their strict rules. Even brought type-c to iPhone.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

You might not be able to sign this one, but depending on where in the world you live you might still be able to help. The official website has guides for a lot of countries. And if you live somewhere where you truly can't help (cough USA cough), then thank you never the less

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

Same, our great American freedom™️ means that ~~we have very reasonable career politicians working on fixing this nonsense already~~ we don’t spend enough money on lobbyists in order to matter enough to then have any iota of actual representation in the formation of our government’s laws and policies.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for the update! I didn’t know this initiative was an actual thing for the EU. I signed both this and the Tax The Rich initiative mentioned by someone else in the comments. Hope it helps!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Pushed my lazy ass to do the same. For anyone still hesitating, it truly does only take a minute and it couldn't be easier!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

This is going faster than I expected tbh. Gotta check whether the vote history is available so I can make some "fancy" graphs about the rate of votes/day.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My dumbass, who doesn’t play games at all, thought it was about doing away with games that involved violence/murder. Aye I’m such a dweeb.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

To be fair to you: "killing games" and "killer games" do look and sound extremely similar. And "killer games" was the term people who wanted to ban violent games in the 90s and 2000s used.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Killer game could also describe a really good game with no killing.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

Signed! I recall reading a guide thinking "I'll sign later" - I just clicked Sign the initiative here, accepted their terms, signed in with my country's eID, clicked OK, done.

Less than a minute of work! Surprisingly smooth!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Wunderbar! Jetzt lasst uns auf ein Millionen gehen!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

BRD! BRD! BRD!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It sucks that my country will never cath up to this standard.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Which country, if I may ask?

I'm Italian and I'm also disappointed in my country, but on the other hand we have an old population and our threshold is so high.

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[–] EmoDuck 3 points 2 months ago

Big shout-out to Timm with two M

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Pirate Software, a former Blizzard and Amazon Games dev, did a YouTube video on this recently with some fair criticisms of the initiative. It’s worth a watch.

https://youtu.be/ioqSvLqB46Y?si=HKxOkeovGNeMv0gE

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

Thor is a grifter who just doesn't want his live service investments impacted. (Rivals of Aether) https://medium.com/illumination-gaming/ludwig-thor-team-up-to-launch-offbrand-games-42ee230d7cb1

Thor shows the opposite sentiment when talking with Tim Bender (Manor Lords) https://streamable.com/339l26 .

The development credit to his name is one undertale clone that has been in development for 7~ years, and QA for blizzard. He should NOT be treated as an authority on this.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

It seems to me that his problem with it boils down to the odd case of someone trying to ruin an online game to make the developer abandon it and then host it themselves to make money from it. This would only be a problem with free or very cheap online games because to have bots to disrupt the game you would have to buy an account for each of these bots. That would become very expensive very quickly.

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