are we ready to admit that Joe Rogan is basically just a right wing podcaster now or are we going to continue this stupid dance of "no he's just a centrist telling it like it is"
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A 'centrist telling it like it is' always ends up being a right wing asshole lying about their intentions.
It's just like all those conservatives that "left" the GOP because they don't want to be associated with Trump and called racists. The problem is, they still all vote pure Republican down the ticket and support regressive and racist policies, so did they really leave the GOP, or are they just arguing in bad faith?
And actually, I'd argue that they're making the problem worse, because that leaves the GOP primaries in the hands of the nut jobs that like the way the party is headed...
I think the 'enlightened centrist' is born when an adult takes an interest in politics for the first time. It's natural for someone ignorant to see the extremes as scary. The problem is that the right is better prepared to guide this neophyte into reactionary politics without ever challenging the "centrist" identity. Politics in conservative spaces are never "right", "reactionary", or "regressive", they're just common-sense ideas, that everybody knows, and totally make sense when you think about it. (There's also a huge helping of edge-lord humor to desensitize the centrist to ideals that would be appalling if people weren't "being ironic". )
So as they drift farther and farther to the right, the only people to challenge the "neutral" identity are on the left, who appear to be attacking a reasonable person; with mainstream ideals; just asking questions.
This is where the "I don't always agree with the right, but the left are a bunch of crazy jerks" mantra comes from.
"Just asking questions"
Politics aside, of the few times I've heard him speak, he doesn't seem too smart.
Watch his episode with Bernie or Cornell West. Every sentence blows Rogan's mind because he's so stupid and has never thought of an issue for more than 0.003 seconds before reaching a conclusion.
Yeah, like I needed any more evidence to prove that Joe Rogan is a complete and utter fucking moron.
If I had a nickel for everytime a former reality TV host took an unexpected hard turn towards extremist right-wing views in the past decade, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice
None of us need it, but he keeps providing it anyway.
Nail in the coffin on this guy lmao what a fucking joke he turned out to be..
For shame, Joe Rogan, for shame sir..
I remember when Joe was a harmless idiot that had some fun.
Rather than a right wing crackpot.
I always thought it was weird when he said you needed to listen to all types of media like Fox as well as MSNBC. I was like, you can listen to neither of those things .... Let's not forget Fox got sued for libel/slander in the Dominion case as well. So it's not another opinion or side that Fox is on, it's outright propaganda.
I was into his clips on YouTube for a short while before corona and the Spotify deal. Even back then the algorithm decided to pipeline culture war bullshit into your feed in an attempt to radicalize you to alt right bullshit if you watched his clips.
When I was on Reddit I kept looking at his subreddit to amuse myself with the ignorant stupidity and the insecure overcompensating of the commenters.
I think there's value in being exposed to other media sources outside your circle but it's extremely tough to take Fox with anything less than a bucket of salt.
I occasionally see articles from them and they're poorly written, clearly leaving important parts out, and have random clearly biased editorial asides. Like "Joe Biden, who experts have heavily criticized" but never saying which experts or what criticism
Ugh. Joe Rogan is what dumb people think a smart person sounds like.
I really think that title goes to Jordan Peterson
No. I refuse to believe anyone thinks he's smart. Funny, sure. "Open-minded," to let the brain fungus in more readily, sure.
Check out the Podcast Knowledge Fight. They've been going over Tucker Carlson's podcast...and holy fuck, Carlsons gone off the deepend. Now that he don't have a team of writers, you get to see this dingus's true colors, and trust me, they are dark.
Seconded. After hearing their specific breakdowns of his “show” it’s laughable even Rogan would make that kind of statement. Well who am I kidding? It’s fucking Rogan so nm
Hey, he definitely still has writers. They're on loan from Ms. Johnson's 8th grade creative writing class but... They're putting words on cue cards and that's what counts.
I don't know why people listen to him. He acts like he's talking to children. It's so dismissive.
Of anything positive you could say about Carlson 'no nonsense' isn't even remotely true.
Remember Joe, he made fun of someone else who was 5'7, saying they were too short to be dateable
Even in court they argued that Carlson was nonsense! "No reasonable person" would take him seriously... I mean for fucks sake Rogan lol
His whole "I'm just sealioning, I'm not really a right winger! I like mushrooms and pot hurhur" bit always irritated me because I knew it was bullshit.
Tucker Fucking Carlson? If he runs I hope John Stewart runs against him.
Respectfully, no. We don't need more media personalities running for office. It's too much of a popularity contest as it is. Jon Stewart is intelligent and cares deeply about his chosen issues, but that doesn't mean he'd make a good (or willing) president. Tucker Carlson is just a boob.
I want a boring-ass presidential candidate with good solid policies and a willingness to take the long view (as in what's best in the long term for the country, not necessarily what will get them re-elected). I don't care if they're cool or charismatic.
Sadly elections are a popularity contest so being an already known media personality is a massive head start over someone eminently qualified and capable, but unknown. If we have to pick a media personality, I'd go with Stewbeef.
If you listen to the Knowledge Fight podcast, you’ll hear Alex Jones literally bragging about radicalizing Joe Rogan. Alex Jones claims to be constantly in contact with him. So this is just the knuckle-dragger going further deep.
Tucker Carlson might not be the brightest man on the planet, but I think even he's smart enough to know running for president would ruin his grift.
Tucker Carlson might not be the brightest man on the planet, but I think even he’s smart enough to know running for president would ruin his grift.
Only if you win. Losing would allow you to scream endlessly about the "deep state" and the "satanic cabal" that "made" you lose to a "pedophile DEMONcrat" while bilking the rubes that believe you out of every dime they can give.
If there's one thing to take to heart from Joe Rogan, I think it's this quote of his:
I'm not a doctor, I'm a fucking moron
what a cuck
only if joe rogan runs as VP. winning combo for sure. /s
What’s sad is that a lot of right-wingers would actually support that combo.
Meanwhile Vermin Supreme continues to languish as a presidential candidate.
I would never want to live in a world where Tucker Carlson is president. Ugh...
Jesus fuck I have had shits that are smarter than this wanker
I mean, he COULD win. Right wing people like him and if you win the Republican nomination you're roughly 50/50 to be the president. Plus he can't do his old job until January 2025 and working anywhere but Fox just condemns him to the post-Fox life of Bill O'Reilly or Glenn Beck, hardly cultural forces anymore.
But I suspect there's a reason we haven't had opinion TV show hosts as president before, I'm just 100% sure he has said disqualifying things over his time in the spotlight.
If I was him I'd do the Mitt Romney, find a deep red state with a Senator opening and live there. Probably takes a couple years of schmoozing with the party leaders if you're not already a local hero like Romney was, but it's doable.
Welp, I used to be a Rogan fan but that just ended. Fuck Joe Rogan and Fuck Tucker Carlson
This was the one thing that pushed you over the edge?
IKR? Of all the copious mounds of lukewarm shit that came before. This little rabbit turd of a tidbit was what pushed them over the edge. And I get that some people find him an entertaining idiot and just watch or listen to laugh at him. But that is not excusable either. We shouldn't be making fun of people with serious mental issues like Rogan or paying them millions of dollars to pretend that they have those issues for the entertainment of others. People like that should be given the care they need and the privacy and dignity that everyone deserves. We should not be putting them up to be a spectacle.
I wonder how much it costs to get Joe Rogan to say both “No-nonsense” and “Tucker Carlson” in the same sentence.