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[–] [email protected] 65 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Finally, some better news in the home front.

But news and polls don't matter - what matters is actually voting.

In fact, you don't even have to follow any infotainment, which is still bad for your mental health, and you already have ALL the information and infotainment you need to act correctly:

TUNE OUT, SPEAK SOFTLY, VOTE DEMOCRAT IN NOVEMBER

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

No, what actually matters is not being forced to live in constant dread before I get to vote and this is finally over. So how about you fuck off thanks.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I think one worrying thing to consider is that she's still edged out by Trump in many of the swing states she needs to win the election – Trump overall leads her in a majority of swing states actually, and Harris doesn't reliably poll above Trump in any important swing state except maybe Michigan. RFK Jr. is acting as a massive spoiler for both sides depending on which state you go to – he takes more away from Trump in some states like Michigan and Georgia; and more away from Harris in others like Arizona, Virginia, and Wisconsin.

The internet seems to be celebrating prematurely, but she has a very real chance of losing this election. It doesn't matter if she gets the popular vote or not, because the candidate most Americans vote for isn't necessarily the one that wins. People need to get out and vote if we're going to get Harris into office.

I'm at least going to do my part as someone in a very red part of Georgia. Can't wait for the convention on the 9th, I want to see who she picks as VP (hopefully Tim Walz, or far less likely Andy Beshear).

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Remember in 2016 when people wondered "How the fuck did we end up with these two candidates?" then again in 2020 and once again this year until Biden finally dropped out?

Well, turns out great things do happen when you finally listen to the entire country crying out loud to pick someone who is actually suitable. It's 8 years late, but better late than never.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago (3 children)

In all honesty, I think Biden gets the credit.

2016 was a shit show and both RNC and DNC fucked it up.

Biden stepped in in 2020 to defeat Trump.

He chose Harris and hinted that he would do one term.

He made good on that and here we are.

That man is a strategist.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So his debate was 4D chess, saying none but god almighty would get him to step aside?

I'm glad he did, and it's commendable, but I don't think this was a master plan. It was responsible resignation in the face of an unwinnable fight

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Look at it this way: if it was the intention all along, how else would you convincingly play it?

The goal is to get the Republicans locked on Trump and save the Democrats from the infighting that cost them 2016.

I couldn't come up with a better plan if I tried.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

You think Biden somehow tricked the GOP into having Trump as the nominee?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Yes you could. If he bailed three months earlier, for example.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Don't get me wrong, Biden did an outstanding job and it turned out to be a great choice for the country. But that's with our 20/20 hindsight.

I remember back in 2020 people were worried about Biden not being able to do the job. We were all crossing our fingers in the debates that he wouldn't fall apart from Trump's attempts to bully him around too.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

I know that this is how it's going to be written in history books, so let those of us who had to live through it remember that Biden was seriously attempting to run for re-election until July. He can be remembered as a strategist if Harris gets elected and we avoid losing our democracy, but let the historians do the hero worshipping. He's a self-serving fool, and it took nearly his entire party forsaking him for him to do the thing he should have done from the beginning. Harris running absolutely was not planned from the start, and his one term comments were lies.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I want her to win, not only because she is the first competent candidate since 2016. But when a multiracial, non white woman wins, conservatives heads will explode like in that scene from Scanners.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I hope for more fireworks. Think of Kingsman: The Secret Service.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Somehow the extreme focus on polls months in advance feels so wrong. The whole point of the election is you find out on election day. And hey, predictions and adjustments are reasonable, so polls have some value, but we don't want to overdo it. And really, this is rather obvious data. Biden was boring in many ways that Harris isn't. /rant

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

That debate was a 4d chess move by Biden.