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Will these emails be more secure?

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not exactly. Maybe you benefit from an additional virus scan (if Proton does this). What you certainly benefit from is the "only load external resources when told to" feature. This prevents tracking since loading the external resource == the mail was opened.

What exactly do you want to achieve in terms of security?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What exactly do you want to achieve in terms of security?

I'm beginning to think many people here just want to throw money at a vague concept of "security" without having a crumb of a threat model in mind.

[–] ItsComplicated 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

IMO people mainly just want big tech to quit snooping on everything they do.

On the other hand, it is a lot of hoops and a large learning curve for those to whom have no idea where to start other than having big tech stop snooping.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Yep, you hit nail on the head. This is currently me.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem with a late stage capitalist world is that the moment you realize you want to escape Big Tech, there are already numerous of services selling pseudo or marketable privacy-respecting product with comparable convenience to the competing Big Tech counterpart. This appeal to non-technical consumers means their willingness to "vote" with their wallet what they thinks is the best replacement.

The drawback of this, for non-technical consumers, is that it's hard to distinguish between no-nonsense actual privacy-respecting services (with caveats laid out before you pay), where you're forced to do research, and those filled with buzzwords and marketable features, where it's easy to completely put your trust in these companies.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

By definition, if you don't feel like putting in the homework, you are ceding control to someone else. At that point, all bets are off. Even trustworthy entities can turn on a dime. Ease and full control are mutually exclusive.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

No. Proton only encrypts message content to/from other Protonmail users. Message subject, sender, and recipient aren't encryptable for email.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

No it's not more secure going via Gmail. But what I did was to get the paid Proton Mail and I used my own domain name. So yes plenty pain and time now to slowly update my email address everywhere away from Gmail to my own domain name with Proton Mail.

But hopefully it's the last time I have to update the email address everywhere, because even if I leave Proton Mail, my mail address is not tied to them, but to my own domain name so I can point that to any other mail provider.

So every mail address I'm changing now, is one away from Gmail. But if course 99.9% of businesses don't Encrypt mail, so I'm only really cutting Google out of the loop (assuming the other party is not using Gmail of course).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Your emails are already scanned by Gmail at that point, so you're defeating the purpose

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

It'll be stored off of Google servers but they'll see it anyways. Still, it's best to do that while migrating emails. Have your old one forward to the new one.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

If you're forwarding from Gmail, then Google can still see all of your emails.

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