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Why YSK: You might be used to Reddit where you can't edit titles. This is important both for the errant poster, but also for the person coming from ages in the future who might stumble upon it.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This makes me realize that Reddit development got stale, this should have been an updated feature years ago.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reddit development got stale when, unfortunately and tragically, their best dev killed himself in 2013

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have been reading about him. He deserves a movie, and a good one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

let's talk to James Franco once he's done making the Shel Silverstein bio-pic I've been asking for for ten years.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They, like Twitter, had good reasons for not allowing it, such as the risk of users editing posts after the fact, and the risk of abusing that privilege to scam other users, so on.

But their development did get stale some years back, and they probably know it, given that Reddit started chasing trends and implementing mostly-unwanted features some probably when they started focusing on trying to keep users on the site, and adding things like image/video uploading (which probably did terrible things to their development costs).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That makes sense, thanks!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Are comments marked in some way to show when edited like reddit was?

Are titles?

Like could I write a post/comment "how often do you call your parents" and after everyone comments, once a week, once a day, oh god never, etc,

Edit the post/comment to say "how often do you eat poop"

And then sit back and chuckle softly to myself? Or would it say *(edited)

It should.

Edit: edit check

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm on lemmy.world and I can see the time and date your comment was posted and same for edited.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Kbin doesn't show it though, so not every software will show the edit tag.

EDIT: Or Kbin just hasn't implemented that yet, not sure.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I have a kbin account and noticed the same thing. I keep going back and forth between the two. I understand why it's implemented, but I'm not sure I entirely like the idea of having every favorite being visible to the public. At least they're only visible on the specific comment/ post but not visible from the user profile.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When a post is edited (title or otherwise), a little pencil icon is shown to tell you it’s edited, just like comments.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sweet good to know.

Doesn't seem to show that for me on jerboa but ehh

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

On jerboa it has how long ago it was posted, then how long ago it was edited in the top right of the comment

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hopefully one happy side effect of this is that it won't become a cultural thing on the Fediverse to put a typo in your post title and then have a comment section full of people all calling attention to the typo instead of the actual question/topic of the post.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Although I'm curious about how they might address the "clickbait" issue of people having a massively upvoted/boosted post, and then changing the post to say something else entirely.

That seems like it might be a problem if people are allowed to edit titles.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

'*Title edited' small text could be added maybe. And if title is edited after a day or week or month then specify that too.

Honestly one probably should have ability to edit titles after max two days pass or even one. I can't think of a good reason you would want to edit a title after a day or two

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Editing titles much later can be useful for example when discussing news or findings that later get disproved, at which point one could edit the title to reflect that so that future readers don't risk going down the path of trusting it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Tag with "Title edited" also include a button showing former title as an uncoverable element.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I don't think it's necessary or even good to have that kind of messages which are either very recent (ninja-edits) or have very few upvotes, engagement, etc, at least for a day or so. At least not a prominent message.

All the concerns, after all, are about swicharoos, and if noone has yet seen the post, is it really a swicharoo? We should rather incentivise people to edit bad titles to get rid of titlegore etc and "delete, repost" aka the reddit solution isn't exactly elegant either.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe through moderation?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is it really a problem tho? If it would happen then the only thing that sucks is that you just got pranked. There are no karma points here to sell. I have more faith in ppl here to not do such things too. But even if they did there wouldn't be a big deal. I think it is much more worth it having it then not having it. Like ruud (admin at lemmy.worls) change his titles from "updating the server" to "[all done] updating the server". Also I am a believer in creating rules if it becomes a problem, to give everyone a chance to be believed in.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It absolutely can become a problem in the areas of advertising, politics, propaganda, misinformation, and scams.

Once out of the spotlight of the immediate popular phase (say, a month or a year after the initial post) and the greater scrutiny that carries, imagine changing the title to something anti-vax, or painting a company in a better light (Nestle did nothing wrong!), or endorsing a fake research result (global warming is not man-made and just a natural cycle!), or just flat out putting in a web address to a phishing site since you know someone’s grandma will click on it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure, but I could see it being used to promote scams and things, too. You get a popular post, and then change it to something else, pointing to a scam, and feign popular support for it.

I remember that being one of the reasons for why both Reddit and Twitter didn't really have post/title editing.

It's better to also have some known method of counteracting any potential issues ahead of time, so we're not blindsided by something like that when it does happen, especially when it's something that could happen now, rather than some far-fetched issue.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Ah I see, I guess I have missed this. I didn't think it was such a big problem. But I can see it happen on bigger platforms. Thanks for enlightening me. I guess I am still too naive for social media haha

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can also add your personal text in a text box when you create link posts, another thing you can't do in reddit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Apparently you can also post pics in replies too!

Random pic from my phone

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's an excellent feature I had no clue about!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

More than half of my titles and descriptions have typos in it so it's a blessing

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I read the title of this thread as "YSK that you can edit TILES on Lemmy, unlike Reddit." I spent far longer than I should trying to figure out wtf tiles were. Yes, I'm dumb.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

interior designers hate this one weird trick

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm confused. Wasn't this posted on kbin.social? It seems odd to me to tell lemmy users they can edit titles, from kbin

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Nah mate this is posted on lemmy.world lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kbin.social currently attributes every post like it was local. That's not intended and will probably be fixed soon.

Previously we could not federate due to cloudflare issues, now we're federating properly but the front end doesn't show the correct source of linked posts.

Kbin is a work in process, lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks. Felt like I was going crazy with other people replying to me that this is on lemmy

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