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I'm looking for any suggestions for smartwatch that it similar like Google Pixel Phones with GrapheneOS. Is there such a thing?

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 4 months ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (8 children)

That's what I use. It's way more stripped down than a modern smart watch, but it has good battery life, a transflexive LCD, can discretely give me notifications so I can keep my phone on silent, and can show me the weather at a glance.

There are more things it can do, I just find my phone is better for the majority of them.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

That covers all my smart watch use cases tho.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Does it support an external Bluetooth HR monitor?

Apparently, an app does that

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

That looks like the closest successor to the pebble I think I've ever seen.

I may need to order one and test it out.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And priced for the average human! Wow.

Damn, if I didn't need the fitness tracking support of my Garmin watch, I'd be all over that!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Same here. Looks really cool, but I use a lot of sport features of my Garmin watch.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So frustrating that their logo is a nice looking round watch, but their product is an ugly rectangular one.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

The original one was round.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

I think I've just found my next watch. It looks more useful than my current Fitbit Versa. Thank you for bringing it to my attention.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Now I miss my Pebble and Pebble 2 :(

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I held onto my Pebble for so long, wearing it from launch until about a year ago, where I got a Garmin Smartwatch.

So many things I loved about it, especially its simplicity and legendary battery life (at that time).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Samesies! The Garmin battery is starting to deteriorate after about 3 years use though. That said I don't regret buying it, it's been great.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Garmin watches have screws everywhere, I would assume they're easy to repair and to replace the battery.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Big fan of the PineTime for minimalism and extraordinary battery life, but the Bangle looks compelling. Maybe once the PineTime dies.

[–] brbposting 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I would reall love to have an open source watch, but unfortunately both the pinetime and bangle.js 2 lack severely in the activity tracking, which is the primary reason for me to have a smart watch.

I'm not sure how the screen is on the pinetime, but on the bangle.js 2 it's surprisingly bad. Not a deal breaker by itself, but combined with a sort of limping experience on other parts, it's not a good product (yet).

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago (1 children)

PineTime is nice, wearing it right now.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Notifications, media control, minor navigation aids, some heart rate stuff (they've linked some papers for their algorithm which I think is cool cause now we can discuss the validity of said algorithm for heart rate monitoring) and most importantly 1024 (the game)

And 1 week (approx) of battery life

[–] HumanPerson 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I thought the game was 2048.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

oh my bad, yeah. its all the same game to me.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Nice. Guess I will get one after all.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Similar to what most smartwatches can: measure heartbeat, show notifications and answer calls from your smartphone, flashlight (by showing white write screen), show weather, etc.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago

PineTime is everything Foss but is only for simple stuff (notifications, time, media control, pedometer, stop watch.) Had mine for a couple of years now and it still gets updated 👍

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Gatgetbridge (your link) has a breakdown of devices they support https://gadgetbridge.org/gadgets/ . You can click through the vendors to find devices which are both "highly supported" and "no vendor-pair". Meaning most/all the features work without any reliance on the vendor app.

As for the similarity you are asking about with pixel->GrapheneOS, there are very few watches that can run an alternative open source firmware or operating systems apart from the ones that are already open source, like bangle.js, pinetime, etc. Wearables are even more specialized than phones, they require specialized code designed specifically for them and would likely require pretty extreme effort to reverse-engineer.

I use a pebble 2 HR with gadgetbridge but the watch it self runs the old pebble firmware which gadgetbridge talks to. This is fine for me, but if you are looking for a more modern watch you may have to make some compromises.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago

There's AsteroidOS but I couldn't find any of the supported watches (all quite old IIRC) at a reasonable price.

Gadgetbridge with some proprietary watch is fine privacy-wise (I had an Amazfit GTR3 pro, I needed to register an account with the Zapp app and use it once, but then uninstalled it once I got the required password and used Gadgetbridge exclusively).

Bangle and the Pine Watch are low-res and IMHO quite ugly compared to alternatives from big brands.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Old Pebble if you can find a working one that someone will part with.

[–] gravitas_deficiency 2 points 4 months ago

Heh, I’ve got one banging around in a drawer somewhere - I should play with that a bit and see how modern devices interact with it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How about something more recent? :)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

if it existed I would be using it. Garmin is the next closest not total crap "smart" watch.

[–] CowsLookLikeMaps 2 points 4 months ago

Worth a look at Coros. I find their battery life and product support to be much better than the garmin watches I've owned. They even added maps as an update for existing watches when they could have forced people to buy a new watch for that feature. Not FOSS though.

If there was an open source GPS watch that could last long enough with enough accuracy for my workouts, I'd be all over it!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I have a PineTime, but I'd have to go with the Bangle.js.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I have a pinetime and I basically just stopped using it. I thought it being open source would mean I could add my own features, but development for it sucks and it's massively limited.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

I just picked up a banglejs 2 and I love it. I was using a galaxy smart watch 5 but didn't work without gapps on my lineage phone. Its obviously not as good as the Samsung smart watch but I've been super happy with it. No creating accounts, getting tokens etc. Just pair it via Bluetooth and gadget bridge and you are good to go. Its a little pricey but for open source watch its awesome, I've heard good things about pinetime as well.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

I use the AmazFit Band 7, the last sensibly sized watch that exists it often feels like.

Weather fails to sync, but then it's probably the least important feature on a watch. The only feature I really wish Gadgetbridge could do that even the official stack can't is "nap mode"

As a narcoleptic person still recovering from major depression, I wish I could either press a button to silence the watch and set a "smart alarm" for 30 minutes. Even better if it would turn on automatically if it detects me sleeping during the day!

The only other thing GB can't do is stand in for the phone-side ZeppOS API functionality, but who needs that, let's be honest!

Fantastic battery life to boot. I have gone two weeks after forgetting to charge it while wearing it almost 24×7!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Weather works on my Zepp OS watch. Breezy Weather syncs it to gadgetbrige

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I only know of the Pine Time, however they warn that their watch OS is community driven and under active development.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

In the open source world, I take that as a highlight, not a warning.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Idk if it can be called a smartwatch, but I just found out about the sensor watch, and now I really want one. Basically a hackable Casio f-91w

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

If it had an accelerometer and Bluetooth I'd have it already.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Lilygo T-Watch. Sorry, I know I'm late to the party but no one mentioned these. They're a little closer to a development platform, but basic enough for anyone to pick up and learn. They're similar to the PineTime in terms of being low-power, more simple options. But this uses a more powerful ESP32-S3 SoC and is a lot more responsive.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I'm using an Amazfit bip watch. Is full supported from gadgetbridge.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

This. And battery life is amazing.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

If you want something feature rich, I have the Amazfit Balance Watch and its just as nice as the Pixel Watch hardware wise. It runs a closed source Chinese Zepp OS but if you pair it with GadgetBridge, none of your data can go anywhere except your phone local storage, and 95% of the features work well.

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