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A California-based startup called Savor has figured out a unique way to make a butter alternative that doesn’t involve livestock, plants, or even displacing land. Their butter is produced from synthetic fat made using carbon dioxide and hydrogen, and the best part is —- it tastes just like regular butter.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (2 children)

CarbonCure does not build plants, it licenses its technology to concrete producers

Fucking assholes. Just license it openly if you actually want to help the world

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

Gates never cared about saving anyone. Only cares about making cash of them. Saving lifes is a biproduct, not the intent.

If crushing babies with a ball-peen hammer made more he would.

He invented a great story about himself though.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The annoying part of this for me is that Gates' name needs to be dropped in, presumably to get attention. But so it goes.

It's interesting to see that the concept of butter in the comments seems to be a significant trigger for a bunch of people (in the /c/science posting of this article). This is another level to the problem.

But the main problem which no one seems to have commented on (maybe because it is mentioned at the end of the article) is, like many animal product substitutes, production cost and scaling.

Animal products are so embedded and subsidised (and/or at least true externized costs ignored), and politically connected, potential eco-friendly alternatives like this have a really extra hard time getting off the ground even if I could one day be cheaper.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You know that anything with synthetic carbon sequestration (sucking out of the air, saving somewhere) is likely to need tons of energy?

Plants are already fine at what they do.

We just need a way to use them better:

  • mix cultures
  • use the leftover plant matter to grow soil

I.e. also no Biofuels

[–] Varyk 7 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Sounds kinda like Ersatz butter made from coal (yes coal), no?

Coal butter even tastes like regular butter according the history books.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The problem with Ersatz butter (oleo) is that it’s a mixture of hexa-, hepta-, and octa-esters of sucrose with various long chain fatty acids. The resulting radial arrangement is too large and irregular to move through the intestinal wall and be absorbed into the bloodstream.

What Savor has supposedly created is chemically identical to the fatty acids in butter. It’s not made of new compounds, but it’s made in an animal and planet friendly way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i.e. not really healthy? Butter is not healthy, is it?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nobody said this was healthy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But margarine is healthy often, at least fine

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Eh... it's just a bit less bad than cow milk butter.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Finally a use for old coal mines