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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This makes me wonder if the 1940s saying “don’t be a square,” which referred to a rigid conformist who wasn’t into jazz, was inspired by square dancing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Apparently, it used to refer to the hand signal for a standard 4/4 beat.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

That makes total sense. Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

Haha, I went to Catholic school and I thought it was so weird that we had to learn square dancing in 2003 (I was in grade 3).

It was even weirder when I learned in high school that it wasn't just my school, this was like a widespread thing! But I guess there's weird history there. TIL.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Jokes on you Ford I learned how to play jazz in school

Plus the acronym to teach key signatures was Ford cars get dropped at very bump, or something

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I learned faces can get dirty after eating berries.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Every bump. It's the sharpes

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago

That was actually a type lol

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Holy shit.

To understand how square dancing became a state-mandated means of celebrating Americana, it’s necessary to go back to Henry Ford, the founder of Ford Motor Vehicles. Ford hated jazz; he hated the Charleston. He also really hated Jewish people, and believed that Jewish people invented jazz as part of a nefarious plot to corrupt the masses and take over the world—a theory that might come as a surprise to the black people who actually did invent it.

More quotes in the article:

https://qz.com/1153516/americas-wholesome-square-dancing-tradition-is-a-tool-of-white-supremacy

More detail, references, and discussion here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/7ihbye/did_henry_ford_really_promote_the_square_dance_to/

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Interesting. My mom had to learn The Hustle, and for me it was the Macarena. I wonder how ol' Henry would feel about that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Now that's something worth dancing to.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

These days he would be complaining about the rap music, which gives the kids brain damage, with the hippin and the hoppin and the bippin and the boppin, so they wouldn't know what the jazz is all about.